WSOP Live Hand Analysis with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)
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WSOP Live Hand Analysis with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)
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MovesLikeDarvin
05:32 sick brag having Brian Rast as a skype connection
Nas47
Hey Andrew! I think snap shove does not tell you how many BB/100 you are making. But if you knew that a pre-flop shove was +0.01 would you pass it up and at what level of gain in BB would you consider it important to get it in? The strategy I have been following is getting in anything that is positive since I don’t know whether I have an edge. I also heard that these +0.01 spots accumulate and contribute to your overall win rate long term.
Foucault
Good question. FWIW, HoldEm Resources Calculator will put a number on the shove for you, and in fact it’s quite common (and logical) that whatever the worst hands in your shoving range are, they will have EV of just about 0. That’s the meaning of an equilibrium – your opponents’ calling strategies are chosen to make you indifferent between shoving and folding at some threshold.
You’re right that in a tournament, there are sometimes reasons to pass up very small edges when there’s a lot of variance involved, and I think you’re right that that will sometimes mean passing up a +EV shove. It’s also important to recognize, though, that not all shoves have similar variance. When you jam from, say, the button, you expect to get a lot of folds. That means the variance isn’t actually that high – you pretty frequently just win the blinds, no fuss, no muss. When you jam UTG, you often get called, and so those are the spots where I’d be most inclined to pass small edges.
It’s also important to note, though, that tools like SS and HRC only tell you the EV vs equilibrium calling ranges. You can and should still use your own judgment to think about whether your actual opponents are likely to call more or less than that. I think again, the difference is often most dramatic for late position shoves. Your opponents in a tournament don’t want variance any more than you do, so they have even less incentive to make barely +EV calls with hands like K5s. And if they’re calling tighter than equilibrium, then those shoves that HRC thinks are only +0.01 are probably doing noticeably better than that.
But short answer to your question is that if you believe the actual (as opposed to HRC-generated) EV of a shove will be +0.01, you should probably wait for a better spot. Major exception would be if you’re UTG, because what’s coming next is definitively NOT a better spot.
3for3
The hand where you didn’t jam 66, the ante is .35 BB. This sounds wrong; I think you meant it to be .35 SB…that would change things a lot, although I think 66 would still be a jam.