WCOOP Deep Run Hand History Review with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)
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playingfor4
Dont even wanna watch… Just checked you on officialpokerrankings, one big lucky win and thats it :/ Bigdog is the way to go 🙂
You are good i want to learn from the best of the best 🙂
redvulture61
On the 88s hand have you ever considered 3 bet folidng the turn? On the you turn you are really polarized all you rep for value is AK,KKs,AAs,44s,55s,22 although though small pairs are a lot better for his range than yours. As for villians range he is repping 44,22,55 for value and as bluffs 10,99s,88s,flush draws, gutters and 6,7. If you 3bet here a competent Villian cannot continue even with a hand as strong KQ and you can be pretty confident in foding is he calls. Maybe i am over thinking things though i have FPS syndrome.
W1ispher
childish, ignorant and unnecessary comments. I can name you hundreds of sport coaches who are far better at coaching than they were at actually playing the sport (not saying this is case for Andrew Brokos).I found his explanations very usefull and am looking forward to the rest of the series
redvulture61
Such a comment is painfully unnecessary Just because a payer has more results does not make them better or worse.
adog26
What a toolbag, one of the reasons why I renewed my TPE subscription was because of foucault. I used to watch his vids on pokersavvy and they were great.
adog26
Has to be a level……
michae1di11on
Andrew mentions on Thinking Poker podcast that he gets trolled a lot and I dont think he cares. I would def recommend that podcast. His conversation with Ben Wilinofsky about their heads up match was on another level. Anyone who doubts him, should check that out
gutbuster200
I can understand constructive criticism, but this comment is just thoughtless and silly. I have not even seen this vid, but from Andrew previous videos and from the thinking poker podcasts/ website I know it will be a good video.
To be honest people are untitled to there opinions but I find a lot of the criticism in the comment sections to be nit picky or just dumb.
panicattck
Andrew is one of the best teachers on this site. Your loss
duggs
+1 to his podcast being epic, just started listening to it a 2nd time over.
Muttley66
Wow .. his hand reading and value targetting vids are awesome .. bigdog uses all these principles in his game but doesn’t explain the mechanics as well as Andrew does.
These vids are a part of the groundwork needed to appreciate better how people like bigdog play and a thinking player will benefit greatly ..
ps .. TPE is a friendly training site that reacts positively to constructive criticism .. no need for the vitriole !
Foucault
Thanks for all the kind words, everyone. I was wondering how this video got so many comments so quickly!
Pf4, I hope you’ll take the commenters’ advice here and watch at least one of my videos (I think the Hand Reading series is probably the best place to start) before you decide I’m not for you.
Also, if you do want to go by OPR, you should also look up results for urbandb888 (my FTP screenname) and live results for Andrew Brokos. I’ve luckboxed my way into a couple bigger scores than the one you’re looking at 😉
Best of luck,
Andrew
GaryLQ
A quality first episode and I’m very much looking forward to the rest of the series. Personally I consider a consider a couple of the preflop folds a bit too nitty, while stacks are deep I’m seeing a flop in those spots with 55 and AQs.
JohnnyBoy
Hey good dont watch foucalts vids. We dont need anymore A game players out there. Sit in the dark and rewatch you boys vids. Foucalt is one of the reasons this site is unique.
Foucault
Looking at it now it strikes me as a clear call with the intention of (probably) check-folding non-8 rivers. I can’t say that I agree with the ranges you list here. For me, I’m betting 88 so obviously I’m not as polarized as you say, and it now seems to me Villain could easily be doing this with a hand like 65 or A5 looking for a cheap showdown. I don’t really see him folding better hands to 3-bet, maybe 99-QQ, though I doubt he has those too often, and certainly not a K. Precisely because my 3bet reps such a thin range when there are so many draws possible, I think you’re way overestimating how much credit it will get.
Foucault
Thanks, Gary, glad you liked it. I would argue that deep stacks should make one less inclined to play OOP, not more. I’m much more likely to call that 3B with AQs if we’re 30 or 40 BBs deep than if we’re 100+.
rasmer
Just checked out that I had AKs when you folded the AQs. 😛
Foucault
Foucault
*pats self on back
loxxii
Is this because with 100+ it will take two stronger hands on average for a lot of chips to go in (neither player is going to crazy with top pair) whereas with 30 either of you may get it in lighter? This is kind of a new concept for me. Please expand on this.
Foucault
That’s part of it. I’d say that most fundamentally, deeper stacks mean more decisions. With 30 or 40 BBs you’ll often get the money in (or make a commitment decision, anyway) on the flop in a 3bet pot. With 100 BBs there’s room for decisions on three streets.
Position is valuable because it enables better decision-making. So each opportunity to make a decision is an opportunity for your opponent to benefit from his positional advantage. Deeper stacks = more decisions = more value to being in position.
jayd
What a complete douchebag you must be to leave this comment without having watched any of Andrew’s vids. He is one of the best teachers on TPE.
Good luck improving your game with a closed mind like that.
phishcatcher
Andrew you are one of the very very BEST,
I’m sure the BIG DOG would say the same, please keep it up
1Uwant2bdaddy1
WOW. You must be one of the worlds largest idiots. You will never achieve shit in life bro. One bit of advice. Do your research and think before you speak. This dude only has like $500k – $600k net made in online poker. With only 3000 tourneys. An ROI like only 185% on fulltilt..2nd bit of advice..Remove head from ass..
P.S. Andrew please excuse me if my “rough” figures are light. Keep up the great work, I appreciate your videos, and “thorough” analysis!! gg gl
1Uwant2bdaddy1
with the 88 the first hand you played. I’d like to point out I think we’d welcome the callers behind to juice our implied odds up this early. Idealy to double or triple up if we flop a set. Later as the levels go up I’d tend to agree that we really don’t want those 2 guys behind us to call. But at this stage, IMO i think we welcome them. Because in reality we’re looking at this stage to setmine to get stacked off by one or two, not take down the minimal blinds. 😀
1Uwant2bdaddy1
+1 1000%
1Uwant2bdaddy1
+1 1000% to loxxi that is..IMO these folds are much too nitty 100+ deep..Both hands are “nutmining” hands. Once the stacks get more shallow, then calling the 3b with these hands then becomes much more costly. Seeing a flop with these 2 hands its mandatory imo this deep. We’re tryin to win a stack, not the blinds. Calling to see these flops makes up such a small % of our stack at this point.
MASTERHOLMES
small/medium pocket pairs instead of limping why not raise the standard (2x, 3x what the case may be) so you can cbet some boards and steal some more pots ?
or is that a big leak ? ,, sometimes you get lucky like how the villain did with pocket fours. and you can double barrel like you planned to do with the eights ?
Foucault
I think my position is good enough and my pair big enough that I don’t have to be playing 88 as a pure set mine. Yes, if I get three or four calls, that’s what it will turn into, and I would prefer that to a single caller who has position on me. But I think the best case scenario will be getting just a single call from a player who is out of position to me. There’s a good chance of putting at least one bet into the pot from ahead in that scenario.
I think you’re drastically overestimating your implied odds when you make a set. It’s not often that you get an entire stack when you’re this deep, and if more than one player is willing to put his whole stack in there, you might have to start thinking about whether you have the best set!
Foucault
I do talk about this is pretty specifically in the video, around the 24:00 mark. I definitely don’t consider it a big leak, but I don’t think small pairs are good c-betting hands at all. Better players don’t routinely call preflop intending to fold to a bet on 70% of flops, so you can’t count on just printing money by c-betting any two cards.
Foucault
Position is still important when you’re nutmining because your opponents can more effectively pot control or get away from hands when the board gets scary. If I put my opponent on a range of, say, {TT+,AK}, it’s not a wise decision to call OOP with AQs in the hopes of making a straight or flush.
You can’t just look at the remaining stack and assume that’s your implied odds. You have to consider how much you’re actually going to win on the rare occasion that you make your hand. I doubt Villain is stacking off with AA or AK on a KJTxx board and maybe not even with JJ on a Qs Js 9d 7h 5s,
xtremeungar
Great well of information here… I am pleased to see these analysis going on. I woulda folded 88 as you did on the turn… and not all that pissed at AQs fold given reads on opener (having just flatted AKo from the BB few hands earlier… figures his range to be much tighter if he is raising now) but I am definitly calling 55 especially after limping in… otherwise open fold it pre.
Klondike
Dont understand why you would open limp 55, but some hands later you click 22 from EP.
Both hands should proberly just in the muck IMO unless the table is really bad.
acesfull44
I have watched many videos from other sites and this could be the single best described video when taking the time to pause and explain each spot I have watched to date. Very well done! I can’t wait to watch the rest of your videos. Keep up the good work.
mastAkur
Andrew Brokos is the reason I jointed this site. My favorite poker videos of all times.
BogeyB13
Hes made some of the best videos on TPE…………
JoStylin
Maybe by now you are old enough to actually be able to play poker and will recognise this video series for having amazing content.
JoStylin
I found the folding of the AQ suited painful. Especially deep stacked you had a rank 2 hand only beaten by premiums pre flop. I could not imagine folding that in those circumstances.