7 Responses to “TPE Theory: Range Construction with Andrew Brokos (Part 3)”

  1. Dreamstrike13

    Just in case you didn’t know —> When your putting the conditions for certain actions you can select the hands as you would in the PF matrix. Personally like the visual image. Can copy and paste from flopzilla/Range Ranger/Stove etc too.

    Really enjoining this series, thx for putting in the work

  2. Foucault

    Thanks, I think I did figure that out at some point 🙂

    There are some cases where I find it helpful to see what % of a range is composed of different types of hands. Can be helpful to see, for instance, that even if you call/raise whenever you have a pair, that’s not nearly enough to make V indifferent to bluffing.

  3. Dreamstrike13

    I understand the like for like comparison OTR bet vs lead and it is very well articulated. Is there not a way we could construct a leading range that includes some of the turn ck/r range that might make the best EV choice?

    Want to check this out myself. For future videos of this type it might be worth while having a quick opening reminder slide that includes: Open ranges in text format-maybe you could copy and past them from CR EV in the comments – for; ck/bet/call flop bet; ck/bet/call river but etc. so we can construct our own CR EV tree as we watch the video. Of course could go back and piece it together, but as you’ve got them there….. 🙂

  4. Foucault

    I’m doubtful. The presence of multiple draws causes the OOP player’s made hands to prefer getting the money in before the river. Check-raising the turn forces draws either to fold away their equity or to put the rest of the money in from behind, with no opportunity to bluff or value bet the river. Calling and then shoving rivers enables those draws to play perfectly, folding when they miss and putting the money in when they hit.

    Good idea about sharing the CREV data. I’ve never done this myself, but this block of text should enable you to replicate what I had in CREV at the beginning of river analysis (these are the assumed ranges I used to begin the turn/river/flop analysis, which aren’t identical to what I ended up determining where the “optimal”-ish ranges):

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  5. mr.clean

    Great series. I’m just starting it, but I’m finding it really helpful. This wasn’t the focus of the video, but I’m curious as to why we’re choosing to have QJdd and J10dd (flush draw and gut shot hands) as calls on the turn, while some bare flush draws are being shoved.
    In other types of situations, like if we’re facing a bet in position on the flop, I think we’d elect to value raise the flush draw + gut shot hands, while perhaps flatting the bare flush draws, correct? What’s the difference between these two situations? Thanks.

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