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TPE Theory: Bluffing with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)
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loxxii
I definitely don’t bluff enough. I like the idea of rating the spot each time, even if I chose not to take all of them.
EvilJade
Great Video.
The idea behind classifying hands into three groups is good. :*)
I will use this but I will add 2 more groups.
‘Nuts’ like the Monster but the top 2 hands and ‘Creature’ ie not quite a monster and better than Marginal :*)
eg the 2 Pair hands on a wet boards.
folding_aces_pre_yo
Hey andrew, I’m new to TPE , great video on bluffing , although i struggled to understand it fully …
i just have a question , if there’s something I don’t understand who can help me with this..?
I know there’s private coaching on here , i would not mind doing a few lessons but it does seem pricey imo…
It’s just the part where when for instance you bet 250 into 500 (as a bluff) , your opponent has to call 250 to win back 750…and u then said how they are getting 3 to 1 …
what i’d like to know is how you got the answer 3 to 1? maybe there’s a few maths videos on here that’ll help me with this part? if so any recommend videos would be good.
also dont you think that by betting half a pot our bluffs will get called more often then not since we are offering them good odds to call…?
cheers.
theginger45
I guess Andrew didn’t see this post, I happened to catch it.
The 3 to 1 thing is straightforward – it’s the same ratio as 750 to 250. To repeat this calculation in future, just divide the first number by the second. For example, calling a bet of 1,300 to win a pot of 2,900 would be 2,900 divided by 1,3000 = 2.23 or so. So you would be getting 2.23 to 1 in that situation.
As for the betting half pot situation, your statement is too general. Think about how different each situation is. Sometimes our bluffs will get called if we’re giving the opponent good odds to call, yes – there is always a chance your bluff will get called, even if it’s very small – but sometimes the opponent isn’t paying enough attention to pot odds. There are many other factors to consider as well, such as the fact that we can’t simply bet bigger when we want our opponents to fold and smaller when we want them to call. That’s an extremely exploitable playing style which we should steer away from. I think Andrew does a great job of explaining these concepts in the video.
folding_aces_pre_yo
nice one andrew 🙂
folding_aces_pre_yo
thanks ginger , much appreciated. 😀
folding_aces_pre_yo
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when your opponents makes a PSB of 500 into 500 , hero’s gettng 2 to 1 on the call , you then go on to say how we should then have 1 bluff for every 2 value bets.
i know u did explained that we should count all the combinations of hands we would value bet on the river , so if we determined we had 20 hands we were going to value bet and we make a pot size bet you would need 10 bluffs which is a 2 to 1 ratio.
the problem is i have no idea how to count the combinations….
can u give me an example or maybe go into more depth in regards to this?
Foucault
Let’s say the board is KKT52 and you are going to value bet only AK and KQ on the river. Based on how the hand has played out so far, you have all combos of these hands in your range (ie you wouldn’t have done something different with them sometimes on an earlier street). There are two Ks and 4 Qs left in the deck, which makes 4 * 2 = 8 combos of KQ. The same is true of AK, so there are 16 combos of value bets total. If you also had TT available as a value bet, you’d count 3 combos of that for a total of 19 hands in your value range.
folding_aces_pre_yo
why can’t we add 55/22? i’m thinking that we may have those in our range. If we have 55/22 there’s 3 possible combo’s of each of those.
What would your 10 bluffs be in this spot by the way?
Foucault
Of course you would value bet 55/22 if you had those in your range, I was just keeping it simple to show you how to count combinations. I can’t give you a bluffing range without knowing how the hand played out. I mean, we have to know our range for getting to the river in order to determine which are the best bluffing hands in that range. This was just an example to demonstrate how to count combos.
senojwod
great series Andrew, i have one question though , there are so many theory videos but what is the correct order to watch them ? Please help me with this someone and the University order doesn’t really help because its mostly hand history review , for eg there is a video on ICM in mid stakes , thats the like the third theory video and in the intro it says ,” it starts right where the previous math video was left at” what previous video? Someone please help me with the recommended order for watching theory videos.