Sunday Big Ticket Hand History Review with Marc Alioto and Guests (Part 1)

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Sunday Big Ticket Hand History Review with Marc Alioto and Guests (Part 1)
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  10. michaeldi11on

    I think you should at least consider triple barreling at 21.20 in the Q9 hand. I don’t think villian has that much AX in his flop calling range. On the turn he has so many tens but i dont think he’s folding them before a river bet. I’m not sure what hands you think he’s folding on the turn but I’d be interested in hearing yours and other players thoughts on the turn/river spot

  11. michaeldi11on

    Also when you bet the turn you have 2 sets of fd’s and tons of broadways that are gutshots and just total air thats barreled a good flop and is now betting a good turn. I would not be folding a ten but i would be folding if you bet the river with so much of a turn calling range

  12. marc alioto

    I think a 43/7/3.4 has tons of aces in his range. his fold to cbet is 48% so he is floating damn near 100% of his ax hands on this board, especially ax with ace of clubs. All his spade combos ax floats, wheels etc. Having said all that, I still think it is a good spot to go three I would just prefer a different villain. 43/7 with 48% fold to cbets and 0% fold to 3 bet tend to be very sticky so I think there will be better spots to go 3 with top pair type hands. I look at him as more of a value target than a guy I want to bluff.

  14. michaeldi11on

    I would definitely not bet the A with our range to give up the river if we think his turn range is Tx, Ax and very little else. I think betting it with our flush draws and gutshots is ok but Q9 doesn’t seem +ev to me anyway. I can’t think of a hand that he folds on the turn. Hope this comes across not as an attack on you but more of a discussion

    Also, there’s a helpful setting on PT4 called “hud stats at the time of hand”. It’s helpful for knowing what info we used at the time

  15. michaeldi11on

    Just to be clear i prefer 1 barrel, 3 barrels and 2 barrels in that order. I def prefer x/f turn rather than betting it and x/f river super often

  16. marc alioto

    Nah bro, everyone has their own opinion and I respect yours. Love talking poker!
    I think I can get him to fold out king highs, 3xs and 2xs. Those are all clearly in a 43/7’s range so giving him 10x and ax only seems a bit off. I have more hands on him from previous games, so HUD stats at the time of the hand are very close to accurate. Also, if you look at hands he plays earlier (where he 10x opens) you can clearly tell the type of player we are dealing with.

    Q9 doesn’t seem +ev to me anyway–False, I will barrel any 2 “air cards” on an ace turn and print profit in mtts. I have way more aces in my range and in general people fold way too often to two barrels.

  17. marc alioto

    I still think going 3 is a very good option, I just think its a mandatory two barrel with the option to fire the third shell

  21. michaeldi11on

    Yea i guess we can fold out bottom pairs and maybe K or J highs that just float for the fun of it. I just thought his floats would be A highs but i guess now that you say it, against this exact opponent he probably has way more air than most. Makes sense now against this exact player

  23. nonsimplesimon

    13:14 A2 bvb:

    first of all do you consider the completion of the small blind a limp (rather than a “completion”) and if so why wouldn’t you consider your “click it” an ISO? isn’t it an “iso” (even though everyone else has folded?) – iow – I always considered this to be a spot where I would punish the limper regardless so I would make it 3x to 3.5x especially deep in the early stages. I still wouldn’t mind a fold because let’s face it A2 post isn’t the greatest even in position and even bvb.

    You said it’s “uncapped”… i guess I am not understanding that. So does this mean your range is “merged”? (no pun intended) of course you’re doing this with your “weak” hands as well as your strong hands right? You’re not just doing it with your strong hands. That said, if you have a strong range in there wouldn’t you want it bigger to build a pot?

    flop and turn: Secondly – when he calls you otf on this dry board shouldn’t he have Jx and MPP hands despite it being bvb? I guess if you’re betting 100% your range and he’s calling with as wide a range knowing you’re betting 100% here wouldn’t you want to cbet ott and get him to fold those weak hands that are floating you and are live to hit otr? If he’s a weaker opponent like a satellite winner then I expect his range to be tighter than a reg yes?

    River: OTT when you check back and bomb the river – would you NOT have flush draws in your range? iow – if you improved your backdoor draw ott wouldn’t you be betting there? You pick up equity and you’d like a fold if he had a stronger hand that was calling otf yes? Similarly would you pot control a jack or mpp hand as well or would you be betting ott? I was trying to figure out what you were repping there unless you were solely trying to get a better Ax to fold? However when you do bomb the river doesn’t it look like you are trying to push him away? … or is this how a fish thinks and we would bet the same amount with our value range as well?

    I hope my questions make sense … Thank you again for your vids brosephf!

  24. nonsimplesimon

    edit: You said that you would have bet if you had a draw or any of those mid pair value hands as well and it sounds like that anyone decent would bet their Jack otr… It looks like you were hoping to get a 6/3/9 or better Ax to fold… interesting … thanks again.

  25. marc alioto

    Villain is completing the small blind, but since there is nobody left to act I prefer to click it with my entire range. I want to encourage calls cause of my positional advantage as opposed to iso’ing a limper where I want to get folds from the remaining villains and the OG limper.(some of the time) If I min click with my full range in this exact spot, it helps balance my range which can be useful against reg’s who may limp a ton of small blinds.
    “uncapped”–if I check, I never have aa, just by clicking it I have 100% of hands in my range
    I would not make it any bigger with my nutted hands as this is a spot I like to stay balanced in. Impossible to range me IMO

    FLOP and turn– I am 12 tabling during this fwiw.
    I think the 9 is actually a good barrel card as its brings an over to flopped second or third pair. In general I will barrel these spots often.

    RIVER–My perceived range has clubs, just in my own mind I never do cause I would always barrel to set up big river bets for value and as bluffs. Im betting similar sizing with the nuts and as a bluff. Its very similar to my overshove range which is a really good spot to stay balanced. I don’t really like my river bet as I don’t really rep much. Its more of a spot where I don’t think he has very many jacks and I think I can get him to fold flopped second pairs. That being said, I still think it is a spewy spot and would have never made this mistake. had I been playing less tables. Sundays

    great ? my man. good insights

  26. marc alioto

    Yeh its seems to be a weird spot for him to check a nutted jack on the river when he limp-called pre and I checked back turn. Seems like a decent value bet when im rarely bluffing the river.
    good stuff

  27. nonsimplesimon

    Thank you so much for the hasty replies my man! good stuff bro!

    QQ 18:51 – I thought it was quite standard to get AK/QQ in with <50bb? Your range for gii here is KK/AKs? Do you ever conceive 3bF in this spot (I guess it would depend if he is ever 4b-gii with JJ or AK/AQ yes) ? Suppose we did flat (and vil is an unknown) how do you foresee the hand playing out?

    How many times do you re-enter? Isn't re-entering bad because of rake? What's your thresh-hold for this?

    Do you vary raise sizes from position – not based on stacks? Is there ever a time when you go just 3x or just 2x?

    Do you mind if I ask if you are playing with your own money or are you staked?

  28. marc alioto

    qq-villain is a 17/12/5.6-aka a really nitty player
    I think getting in qq here preflop is probably bad and in fact, if it weren’t a re-entry, I could see myself folding on that flop.
    UTG open, B 3 bet, utg 4 bet=THE NUTS Im not even sure he 4 bets ak
    Against unknowns I have no problem getting in 50bbs with qq
    I have no problem reentering as I treat it like a new mtt. I wont go more than 3-4 bullets.
    My raise sizing is all based on Villains left to act and stack sizes. Both are very important when thinking about opening or 3 bet sizing.
    I play on my own dime online, and sell pieces when I play the WSOP.
    good ? my man
    Crush souls

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