Sticking it to the Man! RFB Plays the Big Stack (Part 1)

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Sticking it to the Man! RFB Plays the Big Stack (Part 1)
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21 Responses to “Sticking it to the Man! RFB Plays the Big Stack (Part 1)”

  2. Hagbard Celine

    RFB is the man. everyone makes mistakes (except maybe gboro), but to have your game put under a microscope just for the sake of good videos is pretty awesome.

    Enjoy!

  4. gay_on_tse

    I don’t quite understand the KTo hand on K33hh where RFB bet/fold. Assuming villain 3-bet AK pre, a lot of his flop raise are FD and bluffs. Villain is only value-raising 3x and MAYBE KQ. Is it a spew to 3-bet shove KT? How often will Hero get snapped by a better K???

  5. gay_on_tse

    Again, the KTo on K33hh, I often play it like Hagbard, to control the pot OOP, and to get value from weaker pairs later. However, I sometimes have trouble folding top pair weak kicker when villain 2 or 3 barrels, when no obvious scared card hits (ie a heart/ace). I feel like “I let him bluff, so I call with my bluff catcher”. How to avoid being in a tough guessing spot? Would c-betting like Bigdog advocate makes the hand easier to play?

  8. Metasploit

    Love the Sticking it to the Man series. It’s GREAT to have the BigDog involved in these also. I find these videos the most informative besides the Theory Thursday vids. Great stuff guys can’t wait for the next part.

  9. xxsosickxx

    yeah I give RFB credit for having these masters disect his play and appreciate he makes mistakes cause we all do + it makes for great commentary…..good chit fellas

  11. FkCoolers

    A8dd hand @ 31 minutes into video – agree with bigdog. I very rarely raise in that spot unless the limper has a really high fold to c-bet percentage. But lots of limpers are just so stationy which is why I’ll choose to complete and hope to make a big hand instead of risk a decent chunk OOP.

  12. RonFezBuddy

    that was my plan! hahaha actually i think having the recorder on affected me in the beginning. I don’t record that often and I felt a little nervous to make bad calls/bets.

    That’s a little bit of where the mistakes came from. BUT, i think a bigger issue is that when i get a huge stack like that I don’t want to lose it. So I get passive post flop when I don’t hit. This video helped me realize just how detrimental that is. As I was watching it i was mortified that I wasn’t c-betting. But in the moment I was thinking “ok just move on you don’t want to lose a lot of chips here if they play back”

  14. FkCoolers

    I think the overall lesson to take away from this video is do make the moves RFB does in position rather than out of position if you choose to make one or two reckless moves.

    After the Q2 3-bet dumpster fire I’d probably clam up for a couple orbits but if I do get dealt a big hand pre I’d fast play the hell out of it.

    It takes so many hands for people to adjust their opinion of you – probably thousands. Once you show Q2 on a 3 bet and checked all the way down you’re getting tagged as a fish.

    Use it to your advantage. There’s nothing wrong with turning into a nit while they think you’re a maniac.

  15. FkCoolers

    I’m the same way. It’s also why I don’t post sweat threads because I don’t want to look like a donkey at the Final Table.

    Once I accumulate a big stack I play way too much ABC poker instead of reminding myself that the majority of players simply do not make thin calls for a lot of chips so I need to put people to the test more.

    This Stick It To The Man vid is my favorite of the bunch so far because a lot of common spots happen in it where you can take a couple lines but one is much better than the other – i.e. the JTs hand where we lead the turn and he folds late in the video.

  16. thomas12121

    First of all, I really love this concept, it’s brilliant! Think I haven’t seen it before.

    I really didn’t like the sizing both pre and post. When I iso a limper I would make it like 3.3x in pos en close to 4x oop. I don’t really mind taking it down.

    Really looking forward to the next part.

  17. mesoanarchy

    On the the hand where RFB held 86dd and lost to KTo where a king fell on the river & bigdog jokingly said he hopes RFB gets punished for his betting strategy & loses the hand…

    In micro/lower stake tourneys, even at the 800/1.6k/150 point play waaaay less than optimal poker. I have seen this type of dynamic many, many times. First, the guy is in the BB. At this point in a tourney a lot of these players get personally affronted when their BB is raised. They automatically see it as a BS attempt. There are only two players with stacks that can play him to the river w/out going all-in, one has folded, one has raised. All the short stacks fold. If any of the short stacks raised big or all-in he probably would fold that hand.

    But a big stack raiser is just being a thief.

    It is at this point where “olebluffer” is most likely thinking he’s going to play this hand to the river unless an ace flops and RFB bets every street – and even then he’ll probably bet to the river if RFB doesn’t go all-in before they get there.

    So, with RFB’s pre raise the villain is not threatened because his stack is substantial enough to handle the call; so he flats to see what the flop will bring.

    The flop comes 7d 9h 4h. RFB checks. Now, here, if RFB is the normal micro/low stakes player and was on a flush draw do one of two things: place a 6.5k-7k bet or check. RFB checks. Additionally, the normal player at these buy-ins would also bet if they hold and ace because if the board ends up w/out anyone pairing they have the nuts card and all it comes down to is the kicker.

    So, unfortunately, the “dream flop” bigdog speaks of against this type of player would have to involve an ace and two cards below a ten.

    The turn is a 9c. Wein & bigdog suggest a raise here. Remember, olebluffer did not call the initial because he got a good price but because of the perception of a BS attempt. If he did consider the price it was secondary to his not wanting to be pushed off his 1.6k BB and be perceived as weak, So, all he sees are under cards and no flush with him holding two over cards. He is safe to the river and will most likely even call an all-in bet on the turn because he knows the chances are slim RFB hit a set or he would have bet his paired 9 on the flop. olebluffer also would not re-raise if RFB bet because he isn’t looking to steal the pot himself; all he would do is flat and move on to the river.

    When the river comes Ks and olebluffer bets out RFB can bet with certainty one of two things: olebluffer hit a pair or he has anywhere between A-2 to A-9. If olebluffer held AT to AK he would have played his hand much, much stronger, even 3-betting RFB’s pre raise.

    So, in this level tourney, RFB’s mistake, if any, is that he called this river bet. However, because he has little info on the olebluffer and the bet is only 3.2k and he has the big stack w/ over 100k calling to see his cards isn’t that bad an idea. Now he will find out if olebluffer is just that or is that name likely to be the opposite of how he really plays. Since RFB’s perception of olebluffer’s play is that he’s pretty tight, the call will confirm that and he can use the info he gained later.

    At this buy-in level until you get way, way deep in the tourney, players just aren’t thinking all that much more soundly than the players at the beginning of the tournament. Here, waaay too often AJo-JJ is an auto-shove re-raise for a villain in the BB with his stack. They still waaaaaay overvalue their hands plus they still react on a base level of emotion because they don’t want to appear weak in the blinds at all costs.

  18. rivermen123

    Disagree.

    At these stakes, a sizable percentage of players are really nitty and play fit-or-fold, especially OOP, and especially players with olebluffer’s stats. There is absolutely no chance he’s calling down with king high. A c-bet always takes it down on the flop.

    I also think you’re overestimating the “personal affront” factor. He called because he had two broadways and was getting a good price. A lot of small-stakes nits just want to get out of the hand and move on, and watch themselves go up another two bucks on the money ladder. The chances olebluffer plays back, or calls down with king high, are 0.001%, with that one-thousandth of one percent representing three streets of misclicks.

    JMO.

  19. isaacjames

    Hey guys: Love this Series!!.

    For some reason these do not appear under the Sticking it to the man Filter. Just a heads up on that.

    Also are you planning on doing anything on RUSH tournaments?

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