8 Responses to “Sticking it to the Man! Killingbird’s ACR Million with Marc Alioto (Part 1)”

  1. florianm1

    disagree with the T3s 3bet, its a hand that has no blockers and no playability at all if called. further stack depth makes it less likely to work. on top of that the position from both villain and hero make it again less likely.

    if we 3bet there than we have to triple barrel shove until the river on that board imho

  2. marc alioto

    Fair point. I think any player that 3 bets 6-7% can have almost any hand in their 3 betting range. Sure I would always rather have a kx or ax to block some of his flatting/4 betting range. Having said that, I am very happy to see KB opening up. I will take any light 3 bet when he has had so much value in previous HH. I do love going three here as I think villain is a bit capped when it goes check/call on turn

  4. marc alioto

    Limping from any position(depending on stack size) is becoming a trend in the tougher live and online games I have played this year. I have been adding it to EP and MP and have seen great success. I have always been a button limper but adding more spots has just put my opponents in tougher spots. Any time we go outside of the box and do things that are “non standard” I think we put villains in situations that they aren’t used to. This causes confusion and the result is the chips coming this way.
    Azn

  5. MrPunty

    On the AKcc hand (9:22), the passive line that KB took won him 2 streets of value in single raised pot, while squeezing there probably would have won 3 streets in a 3-bet pot. In the early stages of tournaments, shouldn’t we be building pots with premiums? If we’re going to raise 3x early for the purpose of winning big pots when we connect, then it makes sense to be consistent when we get premiums like this.

    Also, love the whiny Derek voice at 44:20. Now THAT is what this video series is about!

  6. marc alioto

    You are under the assumption that we are always getting called when we 3 bet and that is not the case. Folded to the B, we can expect him to be opening over 50% of hand combinations which over 60% of those fold to a 3bet. The sb flatting range is also weak but I would expect him to be calling a little bit more of the time. When they do call, How can we assume we get 3 streets on that exact board? WE block a ton of kx combos and cant expect villains to have any 2x or 5x. Sure, pp but what % of there 3 bet flatting range actually has pairs. Maybe a decent amount, but still hard to say we are getting more value from 3 betting. Having said all that, I still am on board with a 3 bet for the reasons you listed. Small ball or long ball?? The good thing about flatting is that our hand is under repped and we also keep in worse kx and ax that may fold to 3 bets.
    Still think both plays are fine, just would be player dependent on which post flop line I took.

    YEH, Derek’s whiny voice is spot on! pat myself on the back
    gl my dude
    Azn

  7. MrPunty

    I feel you dude. Still gonna argue about it like a pedantic weenie, as that’s how I roll.

    If the SB folded, then flatting AKs in the BB makes sense because you’re just less likely to get called and there’s an argument for balancing your BB flatting range with strong hands (it’s not a great argument this deep but I do acknowledge its existence). But when the SB flats,,at this stack depths this usually means “I want to see a flop” so as long as you’re not squeezing ridiculously huge, you can put in a raise and expect to get called in at least one spot. That doesn’t mean you’re going to win a big pot but you’re taking initiative and building a pot with a strong hand against two weaker ranges, and that’s a good thing to do. You may not get three streets, but when you do, you win more. Even if you only get two streets, you win more. Another advantage of raising is that guys like me don’t show up in the vid’s comments section discussing how this kind of passive play may indicate an severe case of withered testicles

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