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check out this hand i played tcoop
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January 27, 2015 - 7:45 pm
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I think I'm checking back the river.  The only worse hand that calls is QQ, maybe JJ.  That's a max of 12 combos, but in reality a lot less since QQ is something they would 4b with.  However there are a ton more Ax and suited ace rag combos that they would open flat preflop.  Pretty sick though.

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January 28, 2015 - 6:48 am
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Sure was in just fail to accept someone flops quads fkn aces on you, I put him on qq or jj maybe 10so, table was fishy as **** unreal still can’t believe it

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I mean, come on JD, you just can't put someone on quads here. It's .01% chance of quads on the flop. He has the second nuts. 10/10 would've put it in here.

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wow.  i might check back river too, but I think that is probably a huge mistake. Seems like he is way more likely to have other bigger pairs. Either way its pretty sick, especially for that many chips in a big event. sighhhhh

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January 29, 2015 - 4:32 pm
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You're thinking about it wrong.  Sure it's highly unlikely someone's going to flop quads like that, but that's a function of that particular flop is very unlikely (not sure if I'm doing it right, but the odds of any rank flopping trips is [4/52]*[3/51]*[2/50]=[24/132600]=1/5525, and the odds of aces specifically is [1/13]*[1/5525]=1/71,825.

 

But you shouldn't care how unlikely a flop is, you should only care about how his preflop range connects with that flop.  How many AdXd and AdXx vs how many TT, JJ, QQ, and KK there are.  Or to put it another way the 2nd nuts (which is technically the 3rd nuts here) does not look that appealing when there are about 20 ways to have the nuts (and 1 way to have the 2nd nuts).    Even if he is calling a river shove with TT+,66, A2dd-A5dd, A9dd+, AdJx+, you're only ahead about half the time.  I could be greatly underestimating villians ability to stack of with 88 or 77, but if he's that much of a station he's probably calling with even more aces preflop.  Even if it's chip EV it's such a marginal spot and it's for your tournament life I would just back.

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Thank you for all the feedback guys

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gross lol but unlucky, just wondering though why is your sizing so small otf and turn? i know the spr is low but i would of thought you'd be betting at least 1/3 of the pot here.

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