October 25, 2013
April 26, 2013
This tourney lasted 14h. Chopped this two month ago for $1.4k on a sunday and finished 3rd the first sunday this month for $750.
Funny thing is I was 3/18 the day before I took this down in the same toruney and donked off my stack to an aggro-fish who represented the flush which he actually had, vs poket queens. As I said extreme ROI in these, unfortunally playing 14h is just a little too long to try this more than 2 times a week. If there was a $22 Deepstack with an $10k Gtd pool this would be awesome.
My last hand was fun, I had gained a slightly chip-lead and was dealt QQ.
He minraised the button, I reraised 2.5x. He just called. Flop came A57. He checked, I checked (pot control vs the aggro fish; if he had the ace he would surely reraise if I bet, but he was capable of doing so with a seven, so I wanted to get to showdown cheaply). Turn was Q. Gin! Well, almost. Since I had checked the flop, the aggro-fish donk-bet 2/3 pot. I was pretty sure we are good with our set of queens and reraised to 2.5x again – just in case he had the A with no club kicker and to get max fish-value. He took 40 seconds of his timebank and reshipped his whole stack (about 2x pot at that time). I took a few seconds and called, hoping he was tilting with an Ace-noclub hand, that he had done before, or at best drawing to the nutflush. With the made flush I am sure he had snap-shoved.
Well, he showed J5. GG. Little skill, but a lot of hearts. 😀
April 26, 2013
Good thoughts, no doubt. Thinking like this might be the reason why there are so few regs and so many fish around. Nevertheless with my low BR and a ROI of more than 800% in these (~30 tournament sample) for the last 3 month I surely won't stop playing these until my bankroll is about double the size from now or I notice that I was just experience variance in my favour. During the first 6 hours of the game I almost always multi table up to 8 tables. And if I feel I don't miss out on too much during the last 6+ hours of the tourney I might throw in 2 or 3 $8 180man turbos, as well as other turbo tourneys or watch TPE videos and taking notes. Has worked for me so far.
April 26, 2013
I really appreciate your opinion and see a valid point. Still my hourly is about $23 (which isn't great but good for me at that poin) atm and I think I can keep this up which would be a decent rate for me. I play turbos all the time and the normal MTTs on stars often enough and I enjoy deepstack a lot. I love postflop play and you don't get as much anywhere as in these tourneys.
On pokerstars.fr there is a 30€ (~$40) Deepstack tourney with massive starting stacks but 15 minute blind level (opposed to the 30 min on stars.eu). If my roll increases I'll transfere funds to there and try to play this one every sunday as it won't take as long and have a much greater prizepool.
The fact that playing for 14h – especially on a computer and not in a live situation – isn't the most healthy thing to do, is what bothers me the most.
April 26, 2013
I think I know perfectly well what you are saying here. Been looking into the maths of variance a lot and I know that my ~30 samples are worth proving nothing. At least 99,5% of the tourneys I play aren't deepstacked. So don't worry about mixing in other games. I have a very strict BR management and therefore wouldn't buy in to even a deepstack tourney that's much over $30, that's less than 1/100th of my roll. Turbos cap is 1/300th of the roll with some exceptions. Normal tourneys about 1/150th of the roll. I learned it the hard way. 🙂
I also try to put in a ton of volume (500+ tourneys a month) to reduce variance. And I love to mix in these deepstack tournaments every once in a while. It's been paying off lately, but even I'd make only $8/h I'd still enjoy them for the sake of play. I wonder if I should start a challange thread, where I'll always post when I play this, just for fun.
Don't worry about my soul, it's been crushed again and again, for 2014 I feel it's been reinforced to crush poker, not the other way round.
Another interesting thing about these super-deep tourneys is that you have to go all-in on the flop or turn or even pre so much more rarely, reducing variance extremely. Sure, loosing at the FT to a 1 to 3 outer is tougher than in an other tourney, but not by that much.
Oh and I know the deepstack tourneys on carbon, with 15 min blind levels and 5000c starting chips, they are fantastic, too. I currently don't have a roll there, but will be transfering some time in the future again.
Btw: No offense taken whatsoever, thanks for the detailed postings. And wait for my 800%+ ROI Deepstack challange thread! [I know this is the opposite of what you intended, but I am just too much of a “challange-accepted!” kinda guy]
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