RonFezBuddy said:

I didn't realize we had a permission set here that required a moderator to approve a post.  Should be fixed now.

Thank you sir

Ok…so here goes nothing. I'm going to do this without looking at the other posts so it maybe some repeats….but want to try this without any other influence.

Hand 14: Check raise is fine, but on the smaller side….could be pricing in draws on that board. Also, I thik it could be missing value….if he's intent on calling, he'll throw in some extra chips. Turn bet same thing.

Hand 16: No biggie, but could have opened here. Early TAG fold I'm sure is fine too.

Hand 23: Same as before. Potential open to mix up your range….but fold is fine.

Hand 65: Opening the pot there is fine, but not sure about folding to a 3 bet shove with a stack of 8.5 bb. If we can't call then probably shouldn't open. Of course I have no reads or stats on player here…..so could be dependent on that.

Hand 76: Shove….bb only has 4 bb stack and we probably should be shoving a huge range here.

Hand 88: Probably a shove, same as above (didn't run any ICM numbers here though)

Hand 105: I'm shoving his sb limp here

Ok….I'm going to stop there for now as I'm at the point of heads up. My heads up game is seriously weak so I won't go into that as of yet. Outside of the hands mentioned….I would say the only other thing in general is I found your C-bets to be on the larger side. I think you can make them smaller and still achieve the same result.

Well…..that's my review. Look forward to seeing others….

pedactor said:

Ok…so here goes nothing. I'm going to do this without looking at the other posts so it maybe some repeats….but want to try this without any other influence.

 

Good idea and then afterwards we can go deeper into a specific hand.

 

Hand 14: Check raise is fine, but on the smaller side….could be pricing in draws on that board. Also, I thik it could be missing value….if he's intent on calling, he'll throw in some extra chips. Turn bet same thing.

 

Both good points and I think your right as I look at it again.

 

Hand 16: No biggie, but could have opened here. Early TAG fold I'm sure is fine too.

 

Yeah thats why.

 

Hand 23: Same as before. Potential open to mix up your range….but fold is fine.

 

Yeah I agree could go either way. I think I was playing several  tables still and wasnt looking to mix it up too much yet with marginal hands but I think it could easily have been opened also.

 

Hand 65: Opening the pot there is fine, but not sure about folding to a 3 bet shove with a stack of 8.5 bb. If we can't call then probably shouldn't open. Of course I have no reads or stats on player here…..so could be dependent on that.

 

I think he was kind of tight. I think our hand would fair well against his range but I dont think we are ahead. We may have been getting a good price but I recall thinking about my stack size as the second big at the table a call and lose and Im down to 6th position. I honestly wasnt expecting him to wake up and do something.  This would be a great hand to discuss more in depth after everyone gives there initial response.

 

Hand 76: Shove….bb only has 4 bb stack and we probably should be shoving a huge range here.

 

Yeah I think your right, I figured we would call with anything but still I think its a shove.

 

Hand 88: Probably a shove, same as above (didn't run any ICM numbers here though)

 Same a s above

Hand 105: I'm shoving his sb limp here

 Yeah I think its the first time he limped and didnt know what to think of it, if I recall correctly he did it several other times and I raised..or I could be thinking about another tourney.  The first time they do that and its deep Im always worried about a big hand…monster under the bed?

 

Ok….I'm going to stop there for now as I'm at the point of heads up. My heads up game is seriously weak so I won't go into that as of yet. Outside of the hands mentioned….I would say the only other thing in general is I found your C-bets to be on the larger side. I think you can make them smaller and still achieve the same result.

 I typically cbet around half pot, what are you recommending…. depending on if the board has draws or not and how many player still in etc etc I may bet more but for the most part I aim around half pot and go from there.

 

Well…..that's my review. Look forward to seeing others….

lespaulgman said:

Okay so I couldn't wait and I started looking through and analyzing. I am sure I will have more thoughts and questions as time goes by, but here is round 1!

 

Hand 13 — once you hit your set on the flop, you re-raised the flop bet and led out on the turn. Knowing that for most of the hands that seblast35 has played he has shown no ability to slow down or fold, what do you think about a check/call on the flop, check/call on the turn (represent some form of Broadway draw) then a check/shove on the river to get him to look you up? 

I think your talkin bout hand 14 (77)   I felt that flop could have hit his range and I didnt want to give potential free cards especially if I thought he cant fold fold I wanted to make him pay for any draw he may have. Yes Im showing great strength the way I played it but now the turn card is another card that could hit his range and it helps the draw. I would play it differently if the flop was dry or maybe if the turn was a 2 I could have checked and it would have lucked bluffy. But on that turn I didnt want to slow down. 

 

Hand 43 — Six handed with the tight image that you have on the table, would you consider opening 56s? It is something that I would try almost as a semi-steal. If I get all of the folds then great and grab the blinds, but there is a lot of potential to hit a sneaky non-obvious flop, or to rep a ton of different hands due to your image. Wondering what others think on this one.

I probably could have but the BB was so short stacked I expected him to shove wide.

 

Hand 49 — At any point in that are you concerned the ace or a straight may be in his range (67s, since the odds a queen is there is low)?

 I was really only worried about A rag and had he made a full house, my checking the turn does show some weakness or it could be a monster and I made a fullhouse. Clearly there is no value in raising the river. I decided to call any reasonable river bet, he jams I fold but he gave me a great price to look him up.

 

Hand 86 — I am curious about your decision to 3bet shove on this one. The initial raise is way big for the blind level and his stack so he my read is he is clearly committed to this pot and he loves his hand. He has been pretty tight with the only hand showndown in the past 40 being 56s. I like the move, I am just curious how you settled on it and were confident you were going to come out on top.

Well he was so short stacked, I dont always think that when a shorty puts in half his stack preflop he has a monster. I cant simply call and AQ is just to good to laydown there so lets get it in and let the hand play itself.  I expected to see any PP, any broadway, K9s+, A5s+, A8o.

 

Hand 93 — 5 handed I don't hate the K9s to raise and try to steal with. Him shoving over your flop bet though screams to mean that I am probably hosed here and I hate my kicker so I am not sure I could have called him. There was no way in hell I could have put him on 67s, but given his stack size preflop (11bb or so) I could have put him on a call with K6 or K7. I would love to hear you talk a bit about why you made the call.

 I like my open there and obviously we are going to cbet. When he jams to be honest I just didnt believe him, I thought he had like A7, 88 maybe 89. I was getting better than 2 to 1. It wasnt a fist pump call but I made it, I was shocked to see 76.

 

Hands-94-96 — I really like your punishment of the limpers on this one. Something that occured to me, at any point were you concerned that jdp39 was going to try to trap you?  

 

 I think if I recall correctly I hadnt had indication that he was tricky and would open limp UTG big and with so much dead money and our stack size had to go for it.

 

Hand 100 — You open raised with ~15bb effective, why not open shove here?

We could have, it may be a little more +EV to shove.

 

Hand 106 — Smart laydown.

easy imo  especially with the utg limp.

 

Hand 107 — If the villian bets somewhere between t900-t1200 on the turn do you give him credit for the Queen and fold or do you float to the river and try to hit? I think calling him was fine since the bet was really clowny.

 

His bet  was horrible, min bet there? Just seemed like he was taking a shot at the pot. You know what would have been interesting is if I shoved the river it would so much look like a busted flush draw, I wonder if he would have called with third pair.

 

Heads-Up Play — Seeing it was our old friend from back around Hand 13 and knowing how clowny he had been there, I would have a tremendous amount of confidence going into this play. Things looked pretty standard there to me, playing virtually ATCs as aggressively as possible. Interested in what others think on some of the questions I have above.

Thanks for the analysis it was very good. 

hey jdog,

#13- 77, like the aggressive play with check raise and lead the turn, but why bet so small (1/3 pot)? i figured j-10 or j-9 or something like that and would charge him to hit his draw if that's what he was on.

#49- when second ace came on turn wouldn't even a small raise here let you know where your at? min bet there always looks like a crap hand, although it does open the betting up again and probably have to call with your stack size. it just seems unlikely he has an ace when turn comes and he bets min.

#53-  why not re-raise other player? if he had ak most likely he would raise pre, and he could easily have a hand like j10s and be drawing. if he came back at you it would be a tough spot and probably have to fold, but i like to try and figure where i am at asap.

#95- love the shove with all the limpers. free money. could have done that with a much less hand.

#100- jj, would have risked a bet on flop and see who wanted to play. you could increase your stack by 65% if they lay it down. probably a bet of 800 leaving 11bb behind if guy behind jams or get a check raise from blinds. the turn comes and with everyone checking the flop, showing weakness, you now have more outs and i would have raisesd that guys min bet willing to get it in. he showed weakness on flop, then min bets the turn with 10bb in the pot. just not convinced that he has a big hand. maybe a qxs or something at best and would probably have to lay it down. at worst you still have outs.

that's basically it for me. hope my thoughts weren't too silly but i am a micro player looking to improve.

tmck21

Looks like we kind of covered the HH  for the most part. Anyone think there is a good hand as a group to discuss? I have maybe one, does anyone else?  We have a couple more days before the next person's HH

lespaulgman said:

I am curious about the approach to Hand 107 if the betting played out differently than it did. The hand had you starting with KJo, folded to you. Raise to 800 (blinds are 200/400) and the BB calls. Flop comes 2h-7d-2d.

 

Yeah I probably should have just bet the flop. But on the turn when he min bets Im simply not just believing him there, he bets more I fold.  Or if there river brings something other than a K or J  I fold to any further action. 

 

Question #1 — If BB leads here do you credit him for connecting with the flop or is this air trying to be clever and take the pot (since the pot is about 60% of your stack and he has you outchipped by about 2x).

 If he donks out for 1/2 pot or better I simply fold.  I have K high with no draws.  But I should have bet I think when he checks although it would be gross if he raises.

Hand goes check-check and the turn drops the Qc.

 

Question #2 — If BB bets t900-t1200 leading out, what do you put him on (slow playing set of 2's? Protecting a pair of 7's or connecting with the Queen given prior action)

It could be any of those things or a small PP…all of which has me beat. I would fold. 

Question #3 — BB leads for t400 into pot of t1975, given our stack size of t4260 what about the possibility of a re-raise all-in in this spot since the general read is weakness from the BB?

 You can do that if you know he is capable of folding imo.  If I would have at least some type of draw I would have considered that. I was actually considering making a play on the river if any diamond came or A for that matter. Usually that min bet is either really weak or air. Im not folding there with an over to the board.

Kc comes on the river.

 

Question #4 — Does this change the read or plan for the hand any? Does the presence of the king on the river slow down any potential value bets as it could scare him off?

 Well he donks small again on the river, so raising is thin maybe. We lose to and 2x, 77, Q7, KQ, k7 hands. I probably should have checked beind because if he raises Im not beating much. In hind site the min raise was probably the most value I could get from him on the river, but Im not sure I like it.

— I am interested in what folks think. This hand has had me thinking a lot this week.

Very good question, I like diving into a hand in more detail