its wasnt a turbo

I just finished part 1.

I was cracking up at the mouse thing towards the end. Early on, I play very tight when the blinds are low because the pots are much worth stealing at that point vs the attention you have to pay will mulitabling. This is something I picked up from big dog and Chris Moon. I ues that time to tag players on this and other tables. I think this is just an issue of style and both have strengths and weaknesses.

My first cringe moment was not 3betting the QQ. I believe the guy had been tight and was surprised he had ATo there. Either way, you are right about the need to raise the manaics behind out and the fact that he could set mind a smallish 3bet. I think I was worried about folding to a 4bet. That sucks. I will 3bet JJ+ there from now on. What do you do with TT?

Three betting the 75s on the button with 50bb. This is around the stack depth where I start to open up more. By not playing marginal hands earlier, I noticed that this guy had opened a ton. It felt like a good spot, but I do get your point about it being pre ante. At what size stack would you start making moves like this pre ante?

Set mining with 22. I think the standard for set mining is 20x the raise size so to call the 300 I would need to have an effective stack of 6000. What formula do you use for set mining? Since I had a little less, I felt like I should make a move at a decent board like big small small where I am would be top pair would be way ahead or way behind. I flat the cbet and planned to stab the turn (this is also the guy who raised ATo from there earlier). I probably should have abandoned the plan now that I think about what you said about his cbet size. After the turn, he has top pair top kicker or better there every time. This whole idea of turning a missed set mine into a bluff is one I got from big dog where he says he is not flop dependent. I definitely could be applying it incorrectly. This was my second cring moment when I say his cbet sizing. Ughh.

Looks good so far. Im about to fire up part two now.

Part 3

1st hand. 98s. I hate isoing here. No idea why I did that. I normally fold pre flop. I hate playing draws oop. Worst hand so far in my opinion. It would be ok to iso if the stations were not to my left.

6:00 33. I dont think many people slow check an A on that flop with the K out there in a multiway pot. There are no draws and no chances to turn an over. I think small pairs fold and nobody has an A. This was just a stab. I like it because nobody expects me to be bluffing there. It would work with 32o also.

12:30 55. This table has been pretty flatty so Im shoving any +EV hand that does not play well post flop multiway. I probably shove 55-QQ, AJs+, AQo+.

16:30 97s. I dont mind the open, but I hate the flat on the flop. The 55 hand from before is +EV to shove and plays bad post flop. This hand is -EV to shove and play well post flop. The problem is I think people are getting short and are ready to put it in with top pair weak kicker on a flop like this so the cbet FE is decreasing. With that in mind, it's probably a fold pre flop. The cbet is def. bad here because they put you on big cards all the time. The is the second worst played hand of the tourney imo.

20: Q4s. I dont like the hand, but I like the spot. I would rather do this with something like J9s because I need to double or bust. brad2323 binked something for $5K last month and was marginally profitable up until then. (also, eaterx is not a reg and is taking a shot above his normal stakes). Having more here is a good reason to not open or at least not cbet the 97s hand.

23:00 A7o. This is a fold. I would open A7s here in hind sight.

24:00 T9o. Same thing. I should fold these off suit hands. COuld open or even shove T9s here.

27:00 J5o. We have 2 regs in the blinds so I think we can refer to the M Charts here. It says to shove J9o, but not J5o. If they were not calling correctly, then it could be a decent spot though.

28:30 K7s. Mogo raised in the same spot with K7s last orbit. This would be an easy shove if he folded according to the M Charts. I feel like im ok vs his range so I like the spot.

29:00 K7o. I like this as a 3bet spot since he is opening wide and often. Im not as desperate now and it wouldnt be a decent shove other wise so I would like a slightly better hand. Maybe with KTo I would feel ahead of his range.

32:30 A2o. This is a fold using the charts. Possibly we could go wider on the bubble though.

33:30 87o. I agonized over this one. 98o is a shove based on the chart but 87o is a fold. These are regs and this is the bubble so idk how we should deviate. I tanked to check the spot which probably would have made it look weaker had I shoved. I am clueless on this one.

34:00 Q7s. I didnt want to tank again so I just shoved this one because I knew it was close. Turns out it's a fold, but Q8s is a shove. I wish we could get Chris Moon (he posted the chart) to explain why Q6s is good from the HJ when 87o is not from the BTN. My guess is we would expect regs to call but shoves more correctly than fish would call MP shoves?

37:00 A3s. I think it is close there with him being so wide from utg. I like a call with a suited A here.

37:30 KTo. Here is where I got myself into trouble with the chart which says this is a fold and KJo is a shove. Before I got the chart I would have shoved this because I only have 15 bbs. I didnt know hoe to reconcile the two at the time, but I knew I wasnt folding so my plan was to play a flop. I would say that this is probably the worst hand of the tourney, but I am still not sure how to play it better between shoving pre in spite of the chart or shoving the flop. I am going to request that Chris Moon do a video or an article on how to deviate from the chart.

I agree with pretty much everything in the summary. I would suggest noting at what time those hands come up though. I am having a hard time finding the one duggs mentioned where there was a A clubs on the turn and I barreled without thinking about their ranges.

Good work guys. Thanks for the review.

Something is going on with my account so I cant watch vids to prepare for my sunday toruneys so I decided to go over this again instead.

Im not really asking anybody to read all this again. It's mainly for me or for anyone that wants to read my old leaks and compare them to my new thoughts.

I have gotten a lot better since I played this so I will put *** next to the points where my views are somewhat different if it is something I commented on the first time.

Part 1

Generally, I was way tighter in the early game back then. I like some of the spots you guys mentioned now.

8:00 AKo I still like a fold here because I am OOP. He is unlikely to be bluffing and if he is, it is probably with spades so my back door outs could be dirty. Being OOP makes it an easy fold for me though.

12:00 64o I like leading now. If I dont improve, im shutting down. OOP with a straight draw on a flushing board is not that important to play to me.

***13:00 QQ I like 3betting. Benny nails it here. When in position, 80% of the time the correct play is to take the lead preflop and continue it on the flop. Easy game.

Alt line: If UTG is LAG, then I like duggs line to keep all the air in his range. Most fish here are just calling stations though. He would have called that 3bet and at least 2 streets with ATo.

***19:00 22 Set mine is fine. Im not concerned about most turn cards. Im floating to set up a bluff later because I know this guy raises ATo utg. I dont like the play here because it's pre ante and the board is not dry enough. K84 rainbow would be perfect for this play. He could fold 99-QQ,AQ,AJ,AT to double barrels. Maybe we can just fold pairs smaller than 66 instead of floating with them.

It's also important to note bet sizing tells. 2/3 is his standard post flop bet size so it's not as scary here as it would be if 1/2 was his normal size.

23:00 Duggs comment about bet sizing based on what stack you leave them afterwards is good in most cases, but I dont think it applies to Axx boards vs fish. If this guy has A2o and I cbet pot, he's calling so I think we should get more in. I think they consider their remaining stack on other boards like 7xx where they may put you on AK and want to float, but not for too much.

Part 2

3:00 AJs I agree with duggs on betting like 2700 on this river. It leaves more than half my stack behind and he can call without breaking the 16K mark (per duggs earlier comment). I think hands like 99-QQ call 2700 and fold to 3000. Crazy.

5:00 I agree with the discussion on timing tells. Im starting to pay attention to that more. We really need an article on that.

***8:00 QTo I agree with leading turn now instead of going for a check raise. I would prefer 3200 on the river (per duggs earlier comment)

12:00 AJs This is a fold. His range is slighlty too strong. I'd 3bet with antes.

***14:00 T7s I agree that the cbet should be smaller here. I think it should be bigger (and scarier) on a flop like 9xx to discourage floating.

14:30 65o This is what I mean. Now, I would bet bigger like maybe 800 to discourage floats.

16:00 I disagree with avoiding the regs from EP. Until he notices I am opening a lot on him, he is actually the best guy to open on because he is not flatting loosely. I'll slow down once he does something to stop me. I know that a lot of regs are multitabling nits because I used to be one myself.

***16:30 A5o It's a perfect spot and I like the sizing. However, I do like duggs thought on doing this with 76s over A5o if he will flat. He will be more likely to flat if he hasnt been active. I will consider this going forward.

On the river, I think he's bluffing a lot with that sizing when I check back the turn, so I would call with AJo and any pair. (not 3betting AJs or AQ to begin with) He has to have a lot of air in his range to play it that passively with a draw on the board.

27:30 99 If BTN is a fish. I like a flat and possibly call one street. They usually only 3bet monsters regardless of position. They love to call so it would take a pretty big hand for them not to. Im only flatting to set mine or beat AK on non A or K flops.

If BTN is good, then I like a 4bet but if he flats, I am not cbetting A or K high flops. I would put a flat on maybe QQ+, AK. As a matter of fact, almost all boards suck to cbet against that range.

28:30 Duggs makes a good point about flatting to keep air in their ranges. I would just add that I dont like this approach OOP with a hand that does not flop well. Otherwise, I think it's the way to go.

29:30 A7s I like a fold only because it's SB and multiway. I would like it in the BB because it's a better price and I will have position on the SB.

35:00 Benny brought up a nice alternate line of bombing the T5T5 board with AQs+. We only lose to Tx and JJ. Tx is unlikely and JJ would have a hard time calling. QQ+ would have raised pre flop. The play is virtually risk free and is likely to scare off all lower pairs which we are behind and all Ax which we are chopping with. I like it.

Part 3

***5:30 33 I still like this one. I think everything folds except Ax, some Kx, and 99. Ax is rare because a good bit of the few combos left would raise pre flop. I would say maybe KT+ calls. A half pot bluff only needs to work 33% of the time. Way less than 33% of the remaining combos are calling here and we even have like 5% equity vs some of the ones that do when a 3 comes. For these reasons, I disagree with duggs statement that we have to fire two barrels for this to be profitable. I think firing two barrels is very unprofitable.

***10:00 55 I raise here now. This is a question of how badly do I need these blinds. In a turbo, I shove. Here, I dont. BTN is looking for a spot, so I'd have to call and flip with him sometime. Not good, but not worth risking my stack. SB is not 3betting light because I dont think its in his game. It'd fold to him. Same for BB who is very likely to flat. Again, it sucks but it's not worth risking my stack. In a turbo getting these blinds and avoiding the flat or flip is worth risking my stack so I would shove in that case.

***27:10 J5o I shove this now. I shove wider than the M Charts now in some spots because even most regs dont call correctly.

***27:30 K7s I agree that brad and mog are running over the table because nobody is fighting back which is why I took this spot. It is marginal and I wouldnt have to do it if I had played better in the last 10 minutes of the video.

***36:00 A3s Were flipping if he is shoving 50% of hands. I like the fold due to ICM and average stack sizes at the table.