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Video Idea - Range analysis without hole cards
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August 25, 2014 - 10:54 am
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When reviewing my game I like to load up 10-15 random hands on Pokertracker and cover my hole cards and opponents too. This way I can plan how I should be playing my whole range on the boards/situation.

 

Advantages of this include, not being bias by your actual hand, a greater focus on both players ranges, playing similar situations later becomes much easier, not being results oriented. 

 

After I have a vague idea of what our ranges are, i look at my cards and see where my hand fits into my range and how i should play it in this spot. This is a great way to think about the game in my opinion and someone should really do this in a video.

 

(If this is how all videos are made in the future, I'm expecting a cut of the profits 😉 Just kidding) 

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August 26, 2014 - 1:46 am
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great suggestion!

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Thanks! I'd defintely be interested as to what people think of this. I'm not sure if I'm in the minority that may find this interesting. I think it would stop auto-pilot from viewers and instructers because you won't get anything out of the video if your not paying 100% attention and I feel it could be a greater learning tool because of this

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August 26, 2014 - 11:16 pm
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Great idea. I’ll pass it along to the pros and see who might want to take a crack at it.

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August 28, 2014 - 7:06 pm
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Sounds good man, thats great!

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Michael, I actually use this drill/exercise in my 1-on-1 private coaching. It is super effective and opens up people's eyes to the game in a different sense where it is a range-based, situational game, not just playing your hand. I would be more than happy to take on this video series if the interest is there! I think this exercise is very effective for increasing stack size awareness, learning when/why/how to 3bet/4bet/cold/light etc, along with learning to cbet and check back certain flops to take lines to represent a range without backing down from what cards you actually hold. Keep up the good study on your own bud!

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go ahead Danny, Looking forward to see all the stuff you mentionned!

 

 

DannyN13 said:

Michael, I actually use this drill/exercise in my 1-on-1 private coaching. It is super effective and opens up people's eyes to the game in a different sense where it is a range-based, situational game, not just playing your hand. I would be more than happy to take on this video series if the interest is there! I think this exercise is very effective for increasing stack size awareness, learning when/why/how to 3bet/4bet/cold/light etc, along with learning to cbet and check back certain flops to take lines to represent a range without backing down from what cards you actually hold. Keep up the good study on your own bud!

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Thats great Danny! I’ve been adding in Flopzilla to put ranges down….then you filter for “hands better than top pair, including good draws” and it tells you he’s folding 64% of his range to a flop bet. We can then compare how often he folds to how often our bets need to work.

I also find that if I do this work off the tables, my mental game at the tables is so much stronger because I’m not being results oriented of this one spot and more focused on the bigger picture.

Also, players tend to represent hands they will have such a small percentage of the time. For example, they flat the big blind versus the button, then just check raise T84r flops… It’s spots like this that you notice how narrow the opponents value range is, in comparison to their whole range when you sit down and really think about it. Their going to have J9, Q9, KQ, 67, 65 sooooo much more often than TT, 88, 44 even if they only fastplay weak draws a tiny fraction of the time

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“Thats great Danny! I've been adding in Flopzilla to put ranges down….then you filter for “hands better than top pair, including good draws” and it tells you he's folding 64% of his range to a flop bet. We can then compare how often he folds to how often our bets need to work.”

 

Of course you should be aware that good players are also balancing their ranges so will know how to float, etc.

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September 3, 2014 - 7:28 am
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Yea for sure. I just mean we can use flopzilla to compare how often bets should work, in comparison to how often it has to work.

You can see how much of a calling station is then adjust the filters accordingly. There are many ways to see how much of a calling station some players are. In cash games, I look at VPIP, WTSD, fold to cbet, W$WSF and information from previous hands with villain.

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You would probably end up covering about 5 hands the whole series, but I'm OK with that.  Personally I would find it very usefull if a video like this was done at a final table setting with different stack sizes, opponent aggression, pay jumps, things like that.

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September 6, 2014 - 10:45 am
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It's likely that the video will only contain flop/turns/rivers for 5-6 actual hands but if you learn how to play your entire range against villains entire range, for each spot, your acutally learning how to play closer to 50-60 hands.

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Can't encourage this video series enough.  Would be worth the entire price of admission.

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ltcolumbo said:

Can't encourage this video series enough.  Would be worth the entire price of admission.

i have passed the project on to daryl AAAAAAAA Jace and he also thinks this would be a kick ass series as do i, and he will begin working on it in the early new year, il keep ya posted!

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December 9, 2014 - 11:38 am
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HIP HIP HOOOOORAY, this will be great!

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February 26, 2015 - 9:50 am
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Where we at wth this? Think it would be a great video series !

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Thumbs up for this idea, videos are out already?

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up for this video type, any chance to have it sometimes? pure range reading pre & post flop

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