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May 31, 2012
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Daryl is on another planet when it comes to poker. His analysis is always so in depth and spot on..he sees spots that almost nobody sees and is insane in hand reading. It would be great to see his mind at work during live play.
May 30, 2012
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disagree, make him do another theory series please.
May 31, 2012
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Meh. The theory vids are probably the worst part about TPE. Might as well make a podcast or an article on that same topic .. but doing a video seems always like a “waste”. Everytime I sit in front of a computer watching a single powerpoint slide for 10 minutes I kind of fall asleep.
Also .. there is only so much theory you can do. After the basic concepts are covered it comes down to hands hands hands hands practice practice practice hands hands hands. I get better at hand reading by playing as many hands as possible and watching as many hands from pros while listening to their thought process.
But yeah.. I guess some people on TPE like the theory vids 🙂 .. I don't .. just my $0.02 🙂
May 30, 2012
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yea Im pretty much the opposite, probably would have gone elsewhere if the theory vids werent here. And Moon and Daryls latest vids are anything but simple concepts imo
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March 17, 2010
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Daryl has a live sweat from a few months ago, and he will be the first to admit that it wasn't his best work. He does a lot better when he has time to think through his explanations. Every video producer has different strengths, so we try to put them in the situation which they'll do their best work.
October 6, 2010
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black666 said:
Meh. The theory vids are probably the worst part about TPE. Might as well make a podcast or an article on that same topic .. but doing a video seems always like a “waste”. Everytime I sit in front of a computer watching a single powerpoint slide for 10 minutes I kind of fall asleep.
Also .. there is only so much theory you can do. After the basic concepts are covered it comes down to hands hands hands hands practice practice practice hands hands hands. I get better at hand reading by playing as many hands as possible and watching as many hands from pros while listening to their thought process.
But yeah.. I guess some people on TPE like the theory vids 🙂 .. I don't .. just my $0.02 🙂
June 1, 2012
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I have to admit that when I first signed up to a training site I found the theory vids boring and didn't watch them. Now I find them very important to my game, especially with the coaches at TPE as opposed to other sites.
June 7, 2012
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Anything from Daryl is goooold
Upswing potential is huge
black666 said:
Meh. The theory vids are probably the worst part about TPE. Might as well make a podcast or an article on that same topic .. but doing a video seems always like a “waste”. Everytime I sit in front of a computer watching a single powerpoint slide for 10 minutes I kind of fall asleep.
I couldnt disagree more.
If you are actively involved in the theory videos and thinking about your leaks they are EXTEREMELY helpful. If for no other reason than to show you how deep the rabbit hole of poker goes. This can inspire you to look at things in a whole new light which will give more inspiration to be hungry and get in there.
Do you honestly think that the pros are tanking at the final table [say at one drop] for 2 min because they are wondering things such as [oh gee i wonder if my Js, is the highest flush on the 4 spade board] or are they looking at intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies and theoretical situations…
I believe theory is the driving force behind people developing new strats… How many of us would be here if Doyle had never written his book in the first place ??????
August 7, 2012
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Yeah, same as the other guys. Theory vids are what I was looking for and the reason i joined the site. Yeah its great to see good poker minds at work, but it will never compare to those same guys teaching you the underlying dynamics behind each decision.
In my opinion, what good is it to see someone make a play and not know the reasons behind it past the old “he's opening wide” or “im miles ahead of his range in this spot”. I truly believe that the beauty in theory is that these guys can teach you the real reasoning behind a concept or a strategy play, and do so with patience and examples. It is quite hard to express a complete and thorough thought process when playing a hand or even multi-tabling.
Daryl's vid on hand reading is, in my opinion exactly what we need and want more of, at least me. Andrew's recent series is also a really good example. This type of vids are great!! and it would make the site's value go up a ton just by pushing the envelope on this end, IMO.
Seriously guys, please start working on those theory vids, as those are soo valuable. It would be great to actually understand and discuss even the simpler of concepts. Once one truly understands something, there is no need to review it by watching someone play, since you are now aware of the idea, and can implement it and tweak it for your own personal use.
Thanks a lot to all of you guys for putting this videos together. Keep up the great job!
May 31, 2012
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Zhengix_Khaan said:
Do you honestly think that the pros are tanking at the final table [say at one drop] for 2 min because they are wondering things such as [oh gee i wonder if my Js, is the highest flush on the 4 spade board] or are they looking at intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies and theoretical situations…
Yeah, I do think that. Why do you think has there been so much talk about a shotclock in live poker? Have you seen the PCA SuperHighRoller FT stream with DocSands. An online player who could make every decision within 20 seconds in his online days all of a sudden takes 2 minutes every hand. People want airtime. People are trying to not give off any tells (even timing tells) and therefore tank the same amount with every hand. Or people have no clue (most of the time) what to do because they didn't expect to get raised.
And speaking of “intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies”: That is EXACTLY why I want to see more livesweats or HH reviews. Only then do you get to see how villains play and actually build a history. You don't get to see gameflow dynamics in a theory video.
Theory videos tend to be too generic in most cases. “If villain is raising a lot, 3bet wider .. if he is 3betting you a lot, start 4 betting him”. Wow, never heard that before. “If you think you are ahead on the river, call”. Great advice. Everybody knows that. Stuff like that has been written in 100+ poker books. NLHE cash and MTTs have almost been solved and there is no groundbreaking new discoveries. Not like back in the days when people realized that you can 3bet without a hand.
The thing that separates the pros from the fish is the feeling about game flow dynamics, history and tendencies. And those are things you can't teach in a theory video. You either have to experience it yourself (by playing) or watch others do it.
Go ahead and buy the 5 top rated NLHE poker books. Chances are that you won't learn anything new by the time you reach book 3 or 4. Maybe that's the reason why I like livesweats and HH reviews so much better. I have read like 30 poker books in my playing career and I feel like everything has been said already on the theory side of NLHE poker. The way I learn now is by playing / talking about / watching as many hands as possible.
August 7, 2012
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I think that all is good and well, but the fact of the matter is that we, as players, all learn in very different ways. You are absolutely right in saying that game flow, adaptation and tendencies are a great part of the game, and that you can sharp those skills only while playing yourself.
But that doesn't mean that the theory videos are of no use. Maybe you feel you have nothing left to learn from this videos, and that's fine. But there are a lot of new players coming in to the game, who google around for training site and stumble upon the awesomeness of TPE. This players, I believe have a great use for this type of videos. I don't claim to be the best of players, but I know a little, and I also enjoy the theory videos more than anything else.
My point is, if you find them boring, that's fine, but don't discard them or make negative comments such as this being boring or not, or a waste of time, or going as far as saying that that's the worst part of TPE.
These guys put a ton of effort and patience into trying to pass on their knowledge as best they can, and speaking for myself, I am really grateful to them, can't even begin to say how much my game has improved because they have taken the time and dedication to put something like that together.
I don't mean to come down on you or anything like that, of course everyone is entitled to their opinions. I just don't see the point in posting a negative comment, when it's something very much worth it to a lot of us.
October 6, 2010
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black666 said:
Zhengix_Khaan said:
Do you honestly think that the pros are tanking at the final table [say at one drop] for 2 min because they are wondering things such as [oh gee i wonder if my Js, is the highest flush on the 4 spade board] or are they looking at intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies and theoretical situations…
Yeah, I do think that. Why do you think has there been so much talk about a shotclock in live poker? Have you seen the PCA SuperHighRoller FT stream with DocSands. An online player who could make every decision within 20 seconds in his online days all of a sudden takes 2 minutes every hand. People want airtime. People are trying to not give off any tells (even timing tells) and therefore tank the same amount with every hand. Or people have no clue (most of the time) what to do because they didn't expect to get raised.
And speaking of “intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies”: That is EXACTLY why I want to see more livesweats or HH reviews. Only then do you get to see how villains play and actually build a history. You don't get to see gameflow dynamics in a theory video.
Theory videos tend to be too generic in most cases. “If villain is raising a lot, 3bet wider .. if he is 3betting you a lot, start 4 betting him”. Wow, never heard that before. “If you think you are ahead on the river, call”. Great advice. Everybody knows that. Stuff like that has been written in 100+ poker books. NLHE cash and MTTs have almost been solved and there is no groundbreaking new discoveries. Not like back in the days when people realized that you can 3bet without a hand.
The thing that separates the pros from the fish is the feeling about game flow dynamics, history and tendencies. And those are things you can't teach in a theory video. You either have to experience it yourself (by playing) or watch others do it.
Go ahead and buy the 5 top rated NLHE poker books. Chances are that you won't learn anything new by the time you reach book 3 or 4. Maybe that's the reason why I like livesweats and HH reviews so much better. I have read like 30 poker books in my playing career and I feel like everything has been said already on the theory side of NLHE poker. The way I learn now is by playing / talking about / watching as many hands as possible.
no disrespect, but have you actually watched some of the theory vids? they are clearly a ton more detailed than even the raisers edge, which i read and got a lot out of btw.
it seems to me like you are trying to look for things to copy rather than thinking for yourself. that will only get you so far. but to say that MTTs and NLHE are solved is ridiculous. its getting tougher and tougher, but that doesnt mean they are solved. in fact unless you can determine ranges with 100% accuracy it will never be solved.
if you feel like they arent offering you anything, then you arent thinking hard enough
May 30, 2012
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+1 to benny,
September 7, 2012
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I can see both sides to the argument…. if we were all the same we would be clones.
Some people need visual aids and see situations they have been in themselves, pretty pointless without solid theory grounding.
So with my ambiguous retort…..
It would be difficult to try seperate individual needs. 
January 24, 2013
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black666 said:
Zhengix_Khaan said:
Do you honestly think that the pros are tanking at the final table [say at one drop] for 2 min because they are wondering things such as [oh gee i wonder if my Js, is the highest flush on the 4 spade board] or are they looking at intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies and theoretical situations…
And speaking of “intricate gameflow dynamics and player tendencies”: That is EXACTLY why I want to see more livesweats or HH reviews. Only then do you get to see how villains play and actually build a history. You don't get to see gameflow dynamics in a theory video.
Theory videos tend to be too generic in most cases. “If villain is raising a lot, 3bet wider .. if he is 3betting you a lot, start 4 betting him”. Wow, never heard that before. “If you think you are ahead on the river, call”. Great advice. Everybody knows that. Stuff like that has been written in 100+ poker books. NLHE cash and MTTs have almost been solved and there is no groundbreaking new discoveries. Not like back in the days when people realized that you can 3bet without a hand.
The thing that separates the pros from the fish is the feeling about game flow dynamics, history and tendencies. And those are things you can't teach in a theory video. You either have to experience it yourself (by playing) or watch others do it.
First off Daryl Jace's videos are ANYTHING but generic and you even admit this in your opening comment; so therefore you should be happy that he can go completely apeshit on a hand and hit it from every conceivable manner. In fact, most videos on this site are not really generic. They seem to cater to the intermediate/advanced camp.
If you cant see the merit in watching all differnet types of videos then maybe you’re of thise magicans who’s solved the game. But MOST of the videos on here are HH reviews or LS. SO why complain there arent enough????????
ROFL, damn you actually said NLHE cash and MTTs are basically solved??? Wow, all i can say is wow to that……How do you solve a game of incomplete information where the predominant strategies of the time are in constant flux???? Thats why those who have 'solved them' win everything including the main evet year after year after year????? C”MON man… do you proofread the posts before you throw em up???? EVERY pro worth their salt says they are continually learning things or are working on parts of their game.
/sigh…..I feel for TPE sometimes, but i think they have come to realize no matter what you do someone is gonna be unhappy for whatever reason or another. But i want to let them know that they are doing a hell of a job with things and there is a reason i joined this particular site over the many other options. 
October 6, 2010
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protip – download the vids to your computer, and watch them at 1.5x speed with vlc media player, it works heaps better
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March 17, 2010
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Hey guys…just want to chime in that i'm definitely watching this thread….really interesting discussion. You guys are just such a great community and have always helped us understand what customer wants.
This thread just reinforces our belief that a good balance of video types is what the site needs. When we started I really pushed for the theory vids because that was my favorite type of video, but over the years live sweats and HH reviews have really grown on me as well. I take different learnings from each type. They are just different and have their own value. But like Zhengix says, you can't please everyone all the time. I did feel that we needed to bump up the theory which is why we brought Andrew on, so if we are starting to lack in one area let us know and we'll address it.
Also, we are bringing on some new internal staff to help with content development so I expect that we'll be experimenting with new formats as well in the near future.
And, Bennymacca ftw – I do exactly that. I watch most vids on 1.5x speed.
May 30, 2012
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Its a pity the “stick it to the man” and final table reviews died off, i really enjoyed both.
i definitely think a good mix is best for both but i also think its important to have the right people doing each, Daryl clearly excels at making theory and HH reviews, whilst ben war and others bring such strong live sweats to the table.
And i think a live tournament HH review would be sick, espec from one of the more predominantly live players like Jamie Kersetter for example.
June 1, 2012
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protip – download the vids to your computer, and watch them at 1.5x speed with vlc media player, it works heaps better
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This never occurred to me. What a great idea.
October 6, 2010
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m@ddm@n said:
protip – download the vids to your computer, and watch them at 1.5x speed with vlc media player, it works heaps better
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This never occurred to me. What a great idea.
its awesome for filling the dead air. and some people speak naturally faster than others. so i just usually crank it up until they sound like chipmunks, then dial it back a notch from there lol.
June 1, 2012
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its awesome for filling the dead air. and some people speak naturally faster than others. so i just usually crank it up until they sound like chipmunks, then dial it back a notch from there lol.
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Will help while getting in as much content as possible sitting in my car with the laptop on lunch break every day. The plastic steering wheel tables are very cool in case anyone else does the same btw 🙂
January 24, 2013
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bennymacca said:
protip – download the vids to your computer, and watch them at 1.5x speed with vlc media player, it works heaps better
This is a good tip… lol ive downloaded sooo many vids i cannot even tell you…And i watch them probably 2-3 times. Because as you progress you catch different things. Its like watching a funny movie, the more familiar you are the more of the little nuances you pick up over time.
What I may do may seem extreme to some but, I actually have a notebook and i take notes on every video; as if it were a lecture. And I write out the important points and even will go into detail into the situation and all. So later i have a reference and can skim through and note the time in the video so i dont have to skim all 60 min or whatever. I even have diff color pen for the differnet times i watch. I can track my progress and see what my notes say about my mentality at the time. Its a mini time warp/journal for my poker training progress.
I highly recommend the notebook method, They are cheap and for things like Daryl and Andrews hand reading they are great references. Especialy when they have 4-5 hrs of vid time.
Also, during the video. I pause every street and try to range etc. Its the same thing i do in watching past two years WSOP main events. I was doing that aloud one day at my gf's cards and she was watching me watch as a fan becuse sometimes i could put them almost on exact hands and it paid off….
AND @ RONFEZ…. YESSSSSSSS… BRING BACK THE STICK IT TO THE MAN SERIES!!!!!! . . . . i think you and KB have vastly improved since 2010, and this would be great because
A] you non pros get great HH reviews/coaching
B] it shows the other regular joe's how much even poker trainign site owners can improve
C] it always has good insights
D] Its a FUN learning experience. I know Diego listens to Ron & Fez Whatley so he must have thick skin, Therefore, the BigDAWG “Awful”s [that i even hear when i make a wrong move] dont affect him….
E] its the nits turn [yes thats you KB 
]
F] we want , we want, we want
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