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March 5, 2015 - 11:43 pm
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For CRev / GTORangebuilder / Flopzilla trees and/or range analysis.

 

Whilst we can use the MTT strategy section i think it will be more useful for people that use these programs to have a dedicated section to help share trees, expand ideas and discuss. This could even be a sub-section of MTT/Cash Strategy.

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Really love this idea. Seems like a natural separation to have a dedicated section for GTO/Game Tree study. I had never heard of GTO Range builder until now and just checked it out- Kalculater have you used this? Thoughts? I currently have CREV but honestly struggle to get much done with it.

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I have not personally used GTO range builder. I have seen a few strategy videos using it, and it seems like quite a powerful program. My intention was to get GTO range builder after I had developed a few different models of common situations in CRev so that I could easily analyse them side by side.

 

CRev isn't particularly hard to use. It just takes time and experimentation. Hit me up if you want to share models or need some help

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$560/year for full functionality?  GTO, more like GTFO.

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that doens't include the stratedgy packs at $99 each either surprised $760 all in and you don't even get to keep the program. Very steep asking.

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In all honesty, if you're not already experienced in studying GTO then the full version of GTORangeBuilder is probably going to be a little too advanced for you. I would recommend just getting the $10/month River-only version until you've gotten to the point where you feel comfortable that your GTO River play is getting better.

Having said that, yes, I think a specific GTO-oriented part of the forums would be great. I'd love to see this.

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Picked up the cbet defence flop pack (they are stand alone) and got to say it was value for money. There is a very well thought out video that looks at all the previous models and re pro's and con's. He them moves into flop cbet defence and examines board texture along with GTORB trees. Really happy with the purchase. smile

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Any word on this admin?

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theginger45 said:

I would recommend just getting the $10/month River-only version until you've gotten to the point where you feel comfortable that your GTO River play is getting better.

 

Update as to this now too… Unfortunately, GTORB have decided that they only want to sell full-functionality and the lowest subscription you can buy GTORB for is 6 months. A really bad consumer decision in my opinion. They “may however make only river calculations free.” (Direct quote from an email i received).

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Where we at with this? GTORB with only the river is pointless? IF we don't know GTO get to river and we put a range it is just a random output with no real link to an overall GTO stratedgy? 

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BUMP

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Dreamstrike13 said:

Where we at with this? GTORB with only the river is pointless? IF we don't know GTO get to river and we put a range it is just a random output with no real link to an overall GTO stratedgy? 

I wouldnt say its pointless. GTO on the river would still have a real link to optimal GTO river play and is the probably the easiest to figure out due to ranges being so narrow defined. I have not investigated this myself however so only take it at face value.

 

I would have thought a forum section would have been implemented by now.. It really shouldnt take a month+ to implement a forum section which literally takes a few minutes. KB even said on his twitch stream about a week ago that he would get onto it.

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I would have thought a forum section would have been implemented by now.. It really shouldnt take a month+ to implement a forum section which literally takes a few minutes. KB even said on his twitch stream about a week ago that he would get onto it.

Agreed. On e the plus side I think The new hand rande series by Foulcaut is one of my favourite training video series, possible ever, and he's touching on GTO there. Really worth your time if you haven't. smile

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Dreamstrike13 said:

I would have thought a forum section would have been implemented by now.. It really shouldnt take a month+ to implement a forum section which literally takes a few minutes. KB even said on his twitch stream about a week ago that he would get onto it.

Agreed. On e the plus side I think The new hand rande series by Foulcaut is one of my favourite training video series, possible ever, and he's touching on GTO there. Really worth your time if you haven't. smile

I have watched the first few parts although not thinking in-depth, taking notes or using CRev software as he has used due to working fulltime and doing fulltime postgrad Masters.. It leaves little time for the things I actually want to do at the moment. I need to revisit the series and go through it slowly really taking it all in and using software/excel to really help the mathematical side of things. I have found it really interesting though and is definitely my favourite GTO/math oriented series so far.

 

Have you been using CRev, flopzilla or anything else to help you with the series?

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Sorry for the delay guys. Was considering an overhaul of the forums as there are some that don’t get used as much, some that could be consolidated, etc.

That being said i did not want to keep you guys waiting any longer! So alas…

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