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90 man deep and late nearing bubble. My image is pretty good. Villian (34/0 over 140 hands) is very bad ran some poor bluffs and shows he doesnt like to fold a piece. Line check this and whats our move on the turn?
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t175/t350 Blinds + t45 – 7 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
gs3838 (BB): BB = 31.3, t10968
chopper674 (UTG): BB = 52.0, t18190
kalamb (UTG+1): BB = 12.3, t4305
Teodolin (MP): BB = 24.6, t8597
ROCOBULDOG (CO): BB = 28.8, t10075
Dakicker (BTN): BB = 19.3, t6760
yekho89 (SB): BB = 75.6, t26450
Pre Flop: (t840) Dakicker is BTN with Q
J
4 folds, Dakicker raises to t825, yekho89 calls t650, gs3838 calls t475
Flop: (t2790) 8
7 Q (3 players)
yekho89 checks, gs3838 checks, Dakicker bets t1875, yekho89 folds, gs3838 calls t1875
Turn: (t6540) 6 (2 players)
gs3838 checks, Dakicker ????
June 22, 2010
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Damn your in one of those spots that I hate. If you check you save yourself some chips if he has you beat but it leaves you with about ten BB. I would check his WTSD stat and his W$SD. If the W$SD is low which I suspect with the stats you gave already, I would probably shove. If you make the bet any less it may not block the draws on the board. I am nervous about the two flush draws and straight that is out there, but this guy seems like a calling station. Your options seem to be to check and fold to any bet if the river completes a draw or shove and hope for the block or that he has the worst hand. If I was in this situation I would look at the stats I mentioned before and if his WTSD was very high compared to W$SD I would shove.
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July 3, 2010
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I'd have just jammed on the flop. We're short stacked on a wet board so I have no problem taking it down right there.
As played I might shove here, too.
I wouldv'e shoved the flop to block the draw possibilities and end the hand…hopefully.
Now your in a rough spot where you don't want to give up on the hand but you know he's prob. not folding to a shove on the turn if he has a str8 or flush draw.
You have to shove the turn now (as you did) and pray he didn't or doesn't hit.
July 3, 2010
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BBird40 said:
Im too agg…I woulda shoved pre
Shoving pre isn't terrible. I don't like to do it too much when both blinds have me well covered and might make a spite call to try and knock out a player but if they both suck …
FkCoolers said:
BBird40 said:
Im too agg…I woulda shoved pre
Shoving pre isn't terrible. I don't like to do it too much when both blinds have me well covered and might make a spite call to try and knock out a player but if they both suck …
As a pure steal, yes (you don't want to get called)…but you would want to have some info. that made you pretty sure they could laydown. Make sure you have SB/BB fold to Steal % in your HUD.
July 3, 2010
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swet1 said:
FkCoolers said:
BBird40 said:
Im too agg…I woulda shoved pre
Shoving pre isn't terrible. I don't like to do it too much when both blinds have me well covered and might make a spite call to try and knock out a player but if they both suck …
As a pure steal, yes (you don't want to get called)…but you would want to have some info. that made you pretty sure they could laydown. Make sure you have SB/BB fold to Steal % in your HUD.
Exactly. Although raise/folding on a 18 bb stack button vs. blind just seems so weak.
This is one of those cases where if you think you'd raise and call a shove just shove. But you'd make a standard open with something like 88 or 99 to give the blinds a chance to try and make a move on you with Ace rag or a smaller pair.
FkCoolers said:
swet1 said:
FkCoolers said:
BBird40 said:
Im too agg…I woulda shoved pre
Shoving pre isn't terrible. I don't like to do it too much when both blinds have me well covered and might make a spite call to try and knock out a player but if they both suck …
As a pure steal, yes (you don't want to get called)…but you would want to have some info. that made you pretty sure they could laydown. Make sure you have SB/BB fold to Steal % in your HUD.
Exactly. Although raise/folding on a 18 bb stack button vs. blind just seems so weak.
This is one of those cases where if you think you'd raise and call a shove just shove. But you'd make a standard open with something like 88 or 99 to give the blinds a chance to try and make a move on you with Ace rag or a smaller pair.
I dont mind raise folding b/w 19BBs or more….but hell I want to accumulate chips, in those button spots I hope that I have a hand I can open shove with.
And lets face it, lets say you get caught by AK AQ or something. You are going to remember that one time it didnt work rather than the 10 times it did work.
I dont hate open shoving but as played I liked the flop and decided I wasnt getting away from the hand once I bet flop. I think by the turn there are so many hands that he could have but he had the only hand that I was really worried with T9. With less than a pot size bet on the turn I jammed it.
Your reads suggest that this guy could have a very wide range here.
As he's a native of Passive City aggression is key here. He may have hit the gutshot or open ender but in this situation his range is so wide you just have to shove.
Just reg another when he turns over 76o
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