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June 11, 2012
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Hey all,
following hand from sunday warm up. i give you my assumptions the hand and the results(as a reply so that you can think of the hand first) as i do not understand villains call here with the given hand. after looking at the hand and results in first reply please comment on villains play.
BB(Hero): 23/14/9.7
Call:
88-22,ATs-A2s,KQs-K6s,QJs-Q7s,JTs-J7s,T9s-T7s,98s-96s,87s-85s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s,AJo-A6o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,87o,[50]AA-KK,AKs[/50]
Trap AA,KK,AK 50% of the time
Reshoving range:
99-QQ, AQ+,AJs+ and maybe A2-A5s for balance
UTG: 21/16(17% EP) Cbet%=60(6/10)
Brazilian, 341 ranked P5s 15k games ABI 10$, 170k profit
Raise range:
AA-66,AKs-A2s,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs,T9s,98s,AKo-ATo,KQo-KJo
No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars
9 Players
$200+$15
Blinds 200/400 9
UTG jason13-2008 7,538
UTG+1 crown7ts 19,767
MP1 Bunkervogel8 11,992
MP2 stephan1915 10,306
MP3 zz219 11,680
CO PikkuHUMPPA 27,230
D steakaddict. 13,448
SB -shameLi- 5,647
BB Hero 25,826
9 960 Hero is BB A 8
jason13-2008 raises to 800, 7 folds, Hero calls 400
2 2,160 K 7 4
Hero checks, jason13-2008 checks
2 2,160 6
Hero bets 1,080, jason13-2008 calls 1,080
2 4,320 4
Hero goes all-in 23,906, jason13-2008 goes all-in 5,618
Hero shows a pair of Fours A 8
jason13-2008 shows XXX
Flop
equity is 61:39 for utg range vs range. plan is to c/c a standard 1/2PSB with our specific hand as the hand has decent equity on flop vs whole range and has some very good backdoors on which we can c/jam or bet/call.
I assume he bets set 77, top pair, FDs and most likely bottom pair (A4s) and checks back hands with showdown value like good Ax (with backdoors) and PP QQ-88, 66 and KK(3) for trapping.
Turn
I think he calls/floats with most of his check back range as he might think my bet is just a probe.
alternative on turn? different line? different sizing?
River
my value betting range is (>TP)(71) and balance this with flush draws(46).
Is it better to split range here?
Shove with >trips and value bet around 2k with TP and split the missed draws as balance?
June 11, 2012
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No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars
9 Players
$200+$15
Blinds 200/400 9
UTG jason13-2008 7,538
UTG+1 crown7ts 19,767
MP1 Bunkervogel8 11,992
MP2 stephan1915 10,306
MP3 zz219 11,680
CO PikkuHUMPPA 27,230
D steakaddict. 13,448
SB -shameLi- 5,647
BB Hero 25,826
9 960 Hero is BB A 8
jason13-2008 raises to 800, 7 folds, Hero calls 400
2 2,160 K 7 4
Hero checks, jason13-2008 checks
2 2,160 6
Hero bets 1,080, jason13-2008 calls 1,080
2 4,320 4
Hero goes all-in 23,906, jason13-2008 goes all-in 5,618
Hero shows a pair of Fours A 8
jason13-2008 shows a pair of Fours – Ace+King+Jack kicker J A
jason13-2008 wins 15,556 (net +8,018)
Hero collects 18,288 (net –7,538)
Heros play rating:
8 out of 10. I think i should make turn bigger so that river is not an overshove
Villains play rating:
0 out of 10.
Reasoning: the given hand AdJs blocks a lot of heros potential bluffs and therefore it is more likely that hero is value jamming here.
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December 6, 2012
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The range you describe is reasonable, but you should bet bigger with that range on the turn so that your river shove isn’t bigger than the pot. Resist the urge to get upset about how your opponents play. They do what they do. Your job isn’t to criticize them, it’s to figure out how to beat whatever they’re doing. Don’t worry about whether or not your opponents’ play is good – it is what it is.
June 11, 2012
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thanks for the fast answer andrew
maybe it came across wrong but the idea of rating villains play was not because it felt like a bad beat or so it was more because his snap call on the river made me think that my play was bad.
when i started analyzing the hand i realized how bad his play with exactly this combo is based on either GTO(pioSOLVER) or based on heros possible shoving range (CREV). Therefore i was looking for an input why he might have called things like sizing or maybe timing tell from hero. In other words i wanted to get a reasoning so that i can adjust my play.
so we agree on the line with bet turn bigger(2/3PSB), shove river for about pot size
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