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This is from the 109 multi mini. No reads on villain, thought he was a reg at the time. Is folding here insane?!
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #27 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t140/t280 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
BB: BB = 65.8, t18435
UTG: BB = 57.2, t16010
UTG+1: BB = 23.6, t6610
UTG+2: BB = 41.6, t11651
MP1: BB = 54.0, t15110
Hero (MP2): BB = 45.0, t12596
CO: BB = 34.0, t9530
BTN: BB = 29.8, t8355
SB: BB = 52.8, t14780
Pre Flop: (t645) Hero is MP2 with K
A
4 folds, Hero raises to t560, 3 folds, BB calls t280
Flop: (t1485) 4
A A
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t700, BB calls t700
Turn: (t2885) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1775, BB raises to t5460, Hero requests TIME
October 6, 2010
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is it too passive to check behind and call any river, or value bet river if checked?
this just seems like one of those spots where you have a super strong hand but if you get raised it still makes it really hard to continue.
First I puke. Then i’ll let somebody else answer cause i really have no clue what to do here. Its a matter of deciding if you believe he is bluffing enough of the time to make this profitable, i see very few hands that do this that are second best.
What if it turns out the villain has a 20$ abi and is a big loser over a small sample size? Is this guy really capable of tooling out w/ Ax like this? I mean maybe AxQh but i doubt it.
October 6, 2010
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kbor said:
What if it turns out the villain has a 20$ abi and is a big loser over a small sample size? Is this guy really capable of tooling out w/ Ax like this? I mean maybe AxQh but i doubt it.
As played I doubt I'm ever laying it down…..but I agree I probably check back the turn for pot control and then play off the river being in postion
dvbronco said:
As played I doubt I'm ever laying it down…..but I agree I probably check back the turn for pot control and then play off the river being in postion
+1
gross spot.
i don't want to be results-oriented in saying to check the turn, i think it depends on how you view his range on the flop. if he's c/cing with Ax or c/ring it. if he's likely to c/r Ax, then i'd probably check back turn because he's probably not calling a turn bet with like 77 and all his FDs got there. whereas if he's c/cing Ax then he can still have those on the turn and i'd be more inclined to bet again for value and some protection against Ax with a heart.
i think getting it in here is a mistake if villain can't have worse Ax, cause then he just has flushes and boats.
Gross spot for sure. This looks like a value raise by him on the turn. Makes it even worse that we are readless. Being that your only read is that he is a reg, I go with it and get it in. However, right now we are wishing we checked the turn to either block flush or A4 A6 reraise and calling any river bet.
June 11, 2010
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In a tournament with a buyin at this level I would assume that the average player is thinking a little bit more and identifying that he is a reg is going to give me great pause. I'm not sure how happy I am here to call. I know we have a strong hand, but given that he flatted a min raise out of the BB but think about hands that do that (or at least hands that I would do that with):
1. Small PP's
2. Weak Aces
3. Suited Connectors
4. Suited One Gappers
Given those holdings I think he can comfortably float the flop bet as I would expect you to c-bet here a ton and then depending on board texture put you in a miserable spot. His range here is really polarized to the absolute nuts where you are dead to rights or a miraculous hero call to expose a solid bluff on his part. You are drawing pretty thin here potentially if you are wrong (3 K's and 1 A as quads or a boat would be what I would expect you to need to win here if he has it) so I don't think it is worth the risk to find out if he is bluffing you. I think you can safely fold here and still have an effective stack. Just my thoughts.
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