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January 5, 2015
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3000/ 6000 with 1000 ante
My stack= 300k
V Stack is about 600-700k
V is unfriendly Russian guy to my right. He seems to be aggro and potenitally tricky. He’s not the loosest European I’ve seen but he’s not waiting for AA either. We played a hand about n hour earlier in which he put a big check raise on me and I had to fold.
My image is TAG, borderline nitty as I have been a bit card dead.
Pre-Flop: Folds to him and he raises to 13k. I re-raise to 40k with QQ. He thinks and calls.
Flop: 2d – 3s- 3h
I bet 65k. V calls.
POT= 225k
Turn: Ac
I checked. He bet 60k….what would you do here? Do you think betting out on turn is better? What about GII after his bet? A C/R could get calls from 99,TT etc and might also get him off a weak Ace? Or is C/f the play – but isn’t this extremely weak and exploitable?
Is there a line I am overlooking here or is this just a scenario where I have 50bb and a big hand and its going to be a big pot regardless?
Thanks for your thoughts.
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December 6, 2012
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Take a look at this thread: https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/forum/mtt-poker-strategy/big109-bubble-ish-qq-utg/
Even though your Ace comes on the turn, it’s actually quite a similar situation, and a lot of the same logic applies. Basically, your decision ought to be pretty close between c/c and c/f, probably leaning to c/f, and c/r would be suicidal. Why would anyone fold an Ace but call with 99?
June 2, 2012
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I prefer to raise smaller pre, otherwise I feel like I'm bloating the pot which lowers my SPR and may put me in commitment mode at some point post flop.
What about raising to somewhere between 29-32k? I know we're giving him better odds to call in position but I think that's ok. The pot size going to the flop (assuming the smallish raise doesn't induce a light 4-bet), would be about 72k instead of 92k. On the flop I might cbet on the smaller side as well. My bet sizing would be for my entire range. I would cbet 34k. If called, on the turn I continue with a second barrel (65k into 140k pot) mainly bc I want to maintain the lead in the hand, and I want to keep my range balanced to keep from being exploitable. It's quite conceivable that I would play all my aces this way as well. Sure, he could raise our turn bet but then I think it's easier to fold, and we would still be left with a healthy stack. Is that line exploitable? I don't think so bc often we will have an ace. If we check and he bets, I then feel like we put ourselves in a tricky spot. But I don't think check folding here is good. If we check, then we should be checking aces as well. And since we don't want to be exploited, i think we're kind of obligated to call (depending on his bet sizing) and see what happens on the river, especially since we kept the pot small. The river may be kind of tricky though bc we have 170k behind and the pot size is 270k. We may have to fold here if he puts us all in. But like I said, if we check the turn we should have strong aces in our range as well, so it might be kind of tough for him to continue bluffing on the river. Maybe we throw out a blocker bet and fold to a shove? If we take this line, we would be left with about 20 bigs, which sucks but it's still workable.
February 20, 2015
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If your opponent has an ace, is he sophisticated enough to think you have fewer aces in your range?
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August 25, 2012
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Agree with Andrew here that c/r would be a huge punt. Betting also doesn't really achieve anything. I think your decision as regards c/c versus c/f depends more or less entirely on two things:
1) Is villain capable of floating your c-bet on that board with some kind of K-high/Q-high/J-high overcard hand with the intention of taking the pot away on some turns? It seems like a bad board on which for him to do that.
2) If the above isn't true, is villain capable of turning the weaker parts of his turn calling range (perhaps some low-middle pocket pairs) into bluffs here?
If neither of these things are true, then it seems like villain's turn betting range is going to be a lot of AJ/AQ/AK and not much else. It's also worth considering that if villain is tricky enough to be doing either of the above, he is also fairly likely to recognise that he can put a lot of pressure on the bulk of your range by barrelling river, so we can expect that a turn bet is not likely to be the last bet we face.
If either or both of the above are true, that should push us toward a check-call on the turn. However, we should be wary that if we do really believe villain's bluffing frequency on the turn is high enough to justify a call, we may end up in a close-your-eyes-and-call river situation sometimes too – something which might incentivise us to fold the turn a little more even if we do think villain has a bluffing range here.
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December 6, 2012
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theginger45 said:
Agree with Andrew here that c/r would be a huge punt. Betting also doesn't really achieve anything. I think your decision as regards c/c versus c/f depends more or less entirely on two things:
1) Is villain capable of floating your c-bet on that board with some kind of K-high/Q-high/J-high overcard hand with the intention of taking the pot away on some turns? It seems like a bad board on which for him to do that.
2) If the above isn't true, is villain capable of turning the weaker parts of his turn calling range (perhaps some low-middle pocket pairs) into bluffs here?
If neither of these things are true, then it seems like villain's turn betting range is going to be a lot of AJ/AQ/AK and not much else. It's also worth considering that if villain is tricky enough to be doing either of the above, he is also fairly likely to recognise that he can put a lot of pressure on the bulk of your range by barrelling river, so we can expect that a turn bet is not likely to be the last bet we face.
If either or both of the above are true, that should push us toward a check-call on the turn. However, we should be wary that if we do really believe villain's bluffing frequency on the turn is high enough to justify a call, we may end up in a close-your-eyes-and-call river situation sometimes too – something which might incentivise us to fold the turn a little more even if we do think villain has a bluffing range here.
Why wouldn't it be close-your-eyes-and-fold on river? What's your range for calling turn and folding river?
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