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June 14, 2012
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Just wanted to post this somewhere….not really looking for advice per se, although I probably deserve to be berated regardless.
This is a little over an hour into day 1 (levels are two hours).
MP1: British guy in his 40s who seems semi-competent but not that good. Probably a little too loose. Has around starting stack (30k)
CO: Swedish guy around 30, wearing a PartyPoker patch. Seems to play very well, and I'm assuming he's a professional. Has played his share of pots, but doesn't seem to get too out of line. Won a big pot against one of the spewier fish at the table after opening T9s from the HJ and has chipped up to about 45k already.
BTN: Hero. I look pretty young so don't always get credit. No hoodie/patch (just a white t-shirt). I don't think I've played enough pots to have built much of an image regardless. I've got about 29k.
It may or may not be relevant, but the blinds in this particular hand are likely the two biggest fish at the table. That's the biggest reason I decided to flat preflop rather than 4bet (although chances are I'd have probably flatted anyway).
Blinds 50/100
MP1 opens to 250.
CO 3bets to 725.
I'm on the BTN with A
Q. I take about 15 seconds and call 725.
Fishy blinds fold 
MP1 calls 725.
Pot 2325
Flop 7
54
.
MP1 checks, CO bets 1350. I think this is a great board for my range, and I have backdoor nut clubs, so I call. We're so deep that I think I'll be able to make moves on good runouts. (MP1 folds.)
Pot 6025
Turn 7543.
This feels like a gin card for me. Not only do I pick up actual equity, but I can quite plausibly represent a six or a set. CO bets 2650. I tank about a minute and make it 6625. I think I'm giving myself a pretty good price to take down the pot. He tanks for quite a while and calls.
Pot 19225. I have a little over one PSB left.
River 75434.
CO doesn't take too long and checks. Being the Main Event, I don't really want to jam on a pure bluff (this is a dumb way to think, I know), but I think I need to bet huge. I'm pretty sure he's capped at pocket aces, which I'm confident he's going to fold to a big bet. So I fire 13650 (basically two-thirds of my stack).
Ready, set, berate!
(He snap calls and I say “nice hand” and he rolls over 54o. I'm left with 6750, which I eventually run up to almost 20k before busting boat vs. boat late in the 150/300 level.)
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September 28, 2012
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You think villain is betting overpairs on turn? You think hes calling overpairs to a raise? I wouldnt have put him on 45 but I think he does have a decent amount of boats in his range and your range is betting a lot of rivers so he can easily check. I dont like continueing on river for this reason, I disagree with him being capped at AA(obviously casue he wasnt), but even from a readless up to the turn decision, his rnage looks pretty nutty. Without 6-8 hes probably calling your turn raise with all his value, and probably checking or bet/folding his overpairs. I think you are simply being optimistic by thinking hsi range is weighted towards these.
I do liek turn raise, but am giving up on this river and probably only betting rivers that are c and occasionally something like a 6.
I do play everything the same up to the river too(inclduing the flop float)
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June 14, 2012
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Thanks Cody, I appreciate the reply. I think you're right about me being too optimistic regarding his range. I was assuming he wouldn't 3bet the British guy with many hands that connect with this board, but in hindsight that's a pretty dangerous assumption.
May 30, 2012
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wow, the ole 54o, hmmmmm, well, I'm a bit knitty and tight in the beginning, I prob fold pre most of the time, but definetly play on the btn w/ AQcc. I like CC, like your turn raise. but I prob wouldnt bet riv. Yes, I am giving up, but I don't want to put more chips in w fear he has 77 or big pair…..
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June 14, 2012
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P-aire 146 said:
wow, the ole 54o, hmmmmm, well, I'm a bit knitty and tight in the beginning, I prob fold pre most of the time, but definetly play on the btn w/ AQcc. I like CC, like your turn raise. but I prob wouldnt bet riv. Yes, I am giving up, but I don't want to put more chips in w fear he has 77 or big pair…..
I usually play pretty tight early too. This type of move definitely isn't something I do often. I wish I had a better read on the Swedish guy so I could have confidently 4bet for value. He seemed to be very solid and not the type to 3bet speculative hands (although, incidentally, it's a great strategy to 3bet a wide range when you're this deep….it causes fish like me to make very large, costly ranging errors).
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September 28, 2012
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rivermen123 said:
Thanks Cody, I appreciate the reply. I think you're right about me being too optimistic regarding his range. I was assuming he wouldn't 3bet the British guy with many hands that connect with this board, but in hindsight that's a pretty dangerous assumption.
Ya i mean I wouldnt expect him to 3 bet 54o either. But i do think in tourneys deep like these 3 betting small pocket pairs is fine, especailly on the co. You can rep the high cards and smash the low cards, effectively(obviously not really) doubling the pots you can win by bluffinf high cards and hopefully smashing low cards. PLus you are disguised and this deep that has a lot of value. And I think his line looks a lot like a flopped set (preflop being the thing that makes it the hardest to believe but not even close to impossible). His bet on turn prevents you from checking back hands that give him value, IF he gets raised he can still call and boat on river rather effectively with a pretty disguised hand. Obviously he is only afraid of a 6 with hands liek this(and even a hand liek 76s or 66 is in his range which he wont fold on river).
With all that said I do liek the turn raise cause he could easily be blocker betting an overpair, but with these hands I think he is either c/f(maybe c/c depdning on sizing) or b/f.
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February 14, 2013
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Yeah I do like you're logic, but as mentioned, he probably does ck the turn a bit with the TT-AA type hands which we're looking to fold out, so idk it's pretty hard to say what he has but yeah I think if he like ck/c turn bluffing river is pretty sweet but given how it played out and how crippled we are after if he calls I guess just giving up is fine. Also I mean I think just the fact that we're crippled early in the best structure tournament pretty much anywhere is a pretty large consideration (although obv this can go both ways i.e. you get more folds bla blah blah)
June 1, 2012
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I have no problem with the Swedish players 3 bet i think its great given how fit or fold people play when they flat 3 bets OOP and how tight most people play early on. I prefer to just 4 bet/fold AQ especially if the player is from Sweden as you say. His 3 betting range will be pretty wide i would think. Just be prepared for a possible 5bet coming your way so be prepared to 6bet jam sometimes.
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