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Would you call or fold to 57BB shove with bottom end str8 ?
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November 29, 2012 - 5:12 pm
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Hi,

Just had this situation .. what would you guys do .. comments please

Blinds125/250 antes25

Pre Flop: Me(Hijack) with [7c,6c]
yardog74(MP) folds, PartoucheP(MP) folds, soopel(LP) folds, MR_JAM(CO) folds, Me(Hijack) raises 537, urmmmm(BTN) calls 537, RELAX8(SB) folds, FLRAP(BB) folds

Flop: (Th,8d,9d) (2 players)
Me(Hijack) bets 824, urmmmm(BTN) raises 29484, Me(Hijack) ?yell

He'd actually shoved on the hand before too after check raising and flatting 4 bet on 7h 3h 3s flop ..Then donked all in on 5d turn .. with this in mind ..Can you call here ?

Some basic stats for players with stack sizes is as follows:-

RELAX8(SB) $14087     –  VP:19 PFR:17 AF:3.0 W:20|100 STL:100|75 3B:8|100 CB:100|100 N:4351 Hands:48
FLRAP(BB) $3230       –  VP:11 PFR:11 AF:7.0 W:46|33 STL:22|92 3B:3|50 CB:80|100 N:-22272 Hands:176
soopel(LP) $5972      –  VP:10 PFR:10 AF: W:71|60 STL:44|50 3B:6|33 CB:0| N:-8172 Hands:135
Me(Hijack) $14235        –  VP:28 PFR:19 AF:3.0 W:42|50 STL:53|67 3B:9|45 CB:72|53 N:-125384
MR_JAM(CO) $30944     –  VP:19 PFR:14 AF:4.0 W:56|100 STL:67|100 3B:6|33 CB:100|0 N:39438 Hands:80
urmmmm(BTN) $30046    –  VP:36 PFR:27 AF:Inf. W:0| STL:100| 3B:10|0 CB:50|0 N:13032 Hands:22
yardog74(MP) $16148   –  VP:30 PFR:30 AF: W:100|100 STL:100|100 3B:0|0 CB: N:3540 Hands:10
PartoucheP(MP) $5101  –  VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL: 3B:0| CB: N:-50 Hands:3

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November 29, 2012 - 9:53 pm
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I don’t think this is any way I fold here. He can be jamming with so many pairs+draws, 2 pairs, sets since the board is so draw heavy he probably just wants to jam and not face a difficult decision on the turn. (I see a lot of inexperienced players do this. If he has a better straight so be it, but I fist pump call this all day.

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I wouln’t fold either, viewing the history with him. I too think that hit a pair, double pair, maybe a set (but not likely). I think he uses his stack and hopes you wouldn’t risk your tournament life. Maybe he’s afraid of a draw.

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you arent UTG btw, i dont love calling here, i mean if you have reads that he makes spazzy bluffs and will punt stacks then maybe, but this can easily be (10Jdd JQ) since i expect sets etc to flat here

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Hi Guys,

Thanks for input ..

Sry .. well spotted duggs, was in hijack not UTG .. i still use holdem indicator to paste HH .. hadnt noticed the mistakes ..

Anyway, i deciced it was a fold for the following reasons:-

1. I had no reads on the guy, other than that he shoved the previous hand on the turn as described in post and also, that he'd opened 2.2x regularly.

2. I felt that if he was really spazzy, i'd find out pretty soon and hopefully get him to stack off later.

3. The other players were really really soft and with 57bb i just felt i didn't need to gamble in this spot.

Anyway, i can fill you in one of his cards…. He showed the Jd ..

Appreciate any further comments ?

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he had the nuts or he would show both

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duggs said:

he had the nuts or he would show both

I reckoned AJdd .. QxJd .. J10dd and possibly JxJd .. 3 of which i was flipping at best so definately right fold with hindsight .. before i folded i'd put him on any set(board so wet i don't believe this player would flat a set) and all of the above hands.

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