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August 24, 2015
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No Limit Hold’em Tournament T8,000/T16,000
Buy-in: W SERIES MILLION EVENT – Jour 2
Winamax Poker
9 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com – Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking
Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T294,934)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (T453,658)
UTG+2 – UTG+2 (T328,942)
MP – MP (T270,849)
MP2 – MP2 (T223,714)
CO – CO (T420,731)
BTN – BTN (T829,261)
SB – SB (T436,232)
BB – Hero (T365,183)
Preflop: (T42,000, 9 players) Hero is BB with 4♣ A♥
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to T32,000, 4 folds, BTN calls T32,000, 2 folds
Flop: 4♥ 4♠ 9♦ (T106,000, 2 players – BTN: T795,261, UTG+1: T419,658)
UTG+1 bets T38,000, BTN calls T38,000
Turn: 6♠ (T182,000, 2 players – BTN: T757,261, UTG+1: T381,658)
UTG+1 checks, BTN bets T69,050, UTG+1 calls T69,050
River: Q♥ (T320,100, 2 players – BTN: T688,211, UTG+1: T312,608)
UTG+1 checks, BTN bets T124,567, 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T124,567 returned to BTN
Total Pot: T320,100
BTN wins T320,100
So utg+1 is new to the table, BTN is loose. Defend A4 or let it go? Not being results oriented but i kinda am 🙂 Would have been a valuable pot which could have lead to good things in a soft MTT with good structure and million $ pricepool 
August 10, 2014
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Yeah I think defending is fine here. Pretty sexy price. Just have to know how to tangle post.
August 24, 2015
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Yeah i see. I am decent post but that does not mean this hand can be at least semi troublesome at time.
I posted this hand is 2+2 as well and people could not agree on what was the best. Some was never defending and always others always defending. Solid regs in the discussion on both sides. 
September 14, 2014
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even though you’ll be OOP with a hand that does have reversed implied odds you’re getting good odds on the call pre so yeah i’d call.
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August 4, 2015
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Unless both players are really good, I would be leaning towards calling here. I wouldn’t say it’s a mistake either way, but obv calling pre could lead to a big mistake post.
August 24, 2015
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Good to know 🙂 What a A6 in the same spot then?
TPE Pro
August 4, 2015
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A6 is slightly worse because you can’t flop a straight, but I’d still play it the same. Any suited ace would be an automatic call for sure fwiw.
February 20, 2015
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Foucault has talked about thinking you have implied odds when you don’t, such as when your stack is too shallow to take advantage of a good flop. Does that come in to play here or are you deep enough? For example, are you willing to check/call or bet/call if the flop comes ace high?
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December 6, 2012
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Tricky spot. Probably quite close. On the one hand the MWP means you’re getting better odds on a call, but your hand also holds its equity much less well multiway. It’s harder to bluff, harder to take marginal hands to showdown, etc., and results notwithstanding, it’s awfully hard to make a legit value hand with this.
That doesn’t make it a “reverse implied odds hand” though. Only your own mistakes can do that. There’s nothing intrinsic about the hand that causes you to make -EV decisions after the flop.
It is true that even if you hit the Ace you’ll still have just a bluff-catcher and may even end up folding. That doesn’t necessarily make it a bad call pre considering the price you’re getting. I think if you aren’t comfortable playing after the flop it’s fine to fold, but you should really work on getting more comfortable.
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