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June 1, 2012
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PokerStars – $10+$1|12500/25000 Ante 2500 NL – Holdem – 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG+2: 2.79 BB
MP: 20.26 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP+1: 29.61 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 20)
CO: 31.23 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 14)
BTN: 15.38 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 20)
SB: 28.39 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 20)
BB: 6.36 BB (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG: 7.68 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (UTG+1): 24.84 BB
9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has J
A
fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 2.2 BB[/color], fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1.7 BB, fold
Flop: (6.3 BB, 2 players) A
Q Q
SB checks, [color=red]Hero bets 2 BB[/color], [color=red]SB raises to 5 BB[/color], [color=red]Hero raises to 22.54 BB and is all-in[/color], SB calls 17.54 BB
Turn: (51.38 BB, 2 players) Q
River: (51.38 BB, 2 players) 6
SB shows Q
K (Four of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 44%, Flop 91%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows J A (Full House, Queens full of Aces) (Pre 56%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 51.38 BB
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September 28, 2012
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On flop I dont think it should be a fold, but there is really no value in shoving. I tend to check back these flops. Not all that much value from worse hands, going to be near impossible to get 3 streets or play for stacks comfortably. We can check back here to pot control and avoid spots like this.
AS played I would just call the CR and see what he does on turn. Not much worse I expect to call out of sb then c/r get it in vs me on this board, and even when we are ahead its going to be much more marginally then the amount we are behind.
Especially this deep in the tournament, the average person just doesnt make too many moves on a board like this.
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June 1, 2012
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Yeah its such a sick spot one of my biggest leaks in poker is levelling myself and you just cant cure it by playing differently its a mental game issue.
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August 3, 2011
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Yeah I def agree with CCuster here. Check back to get value on later streets. Obviously if you call check raise you are going broke on the turn nothing you can do.
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December 30, 2013
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agree with most of the above but i categorically disagree with anything DannyN13 says.
as played call the ch/r and likely go broke sigh calling to chop the turn.
but like ccuster saying check back, honestly this often becomes a 1-street hand on this board unless u have him in a situation where you both have Ax and you outkick.
November 22, 2013
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I agree with every thing said. I'd add what was your motivation for just bombing the flop? Given your raise sizes, you seem to want to play small ball, which is fine. The key element to small ball is not overvaluing TPTK type hands. On flop, it's an easy call, reraising is very bad imo. It's a text book situation of probably being ahead but also being hard to get value from worse. Then when the turn came Q it would have been really hard to put him on the case Queen, but I still wouldn't raise. So I would just call flop and just call down turn/river if it came to that.
June 1, 2012
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I agree with you Chris the hand is pretty much a cooler given the runout was going broke regardles. Effective stacks are to short to consider a fold on this runout.
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August 25, 2012
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I don't think it's a slam dunk fold but I wouldn't shove the flop. You really don't get called by worse very often. Checking back flop or just calling the c/r and calling off on turn are both acceptable. I think I like checking the flop because SB isn't going to have that many weaker Ax hands here that we get value from – certainly he's more likely to have a KQs, KQo or QJs than ATs, ATo or A9s. The other hands in his range are middling pairs, which he's pretty likely to fold here with a decent frequency but might call a bet with on the turn or river.
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