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September 14, 2014
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#Game No : 773398039
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 773398039 *****
$125/$250 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #78340208 Free 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: aphrotak7 ( $4,010 )
Seat 2: NICOESPIN ( $12,655 )
Seat 3: beccacon1 ( $5,425 )
Seat 4: london_ace ( $9,882 )
Seat 5: chndlwkbzwd ( $8,315 )
Seat 6: hugejackman ( $6,725 )
Seat 7: Ms.Dubois ( $4,950 )
Seat 9: djtiesto28 ( $10,559 )
Seat 10: sevo1 ( $5,061 )
Ms.Dubois posts ante [$30]
aphrotak7 posts ante [$30]
NICOESPIN posts ante [$30]
beccacon1 posts ante [$30]
djtiesto28 posts ante [$30]
sevo1 posts ante [$30]
london_ace posts ante [$30]
chndlwkbzwd posts ante [$30]
hugejackman posts ante [$30]
aphrotak7 posts small blind [$125]
NICOESPIN posts big blind [$250]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ J
, J
]
beccacon1 folds
london_ace raises [$500]
chndlwkbzwd folds
hugejackman folds
Ms.Dubois calls [$500]
djtiesto28 folds
sevo1 folds
aphrotak7 folds
NICOESPIN calls [$250]
** Dealing flop ** [ 6
, 8
, 3 $1,895
NICOESPIN checks
london_ace bets [$947]
Ms.Dubois folds
NICOESPIN raises [$1,894]
london_ace raises [$8,405]
NICOESPIN calls [$7,458]
** Dealing turn ** [ K ]
** Dealing river ** [ 6]
** Summary **
hey
no reads
which line do you take otf? do you prefer calling or shoving here? If we call we can keep the weakest part of his range in like 8x , if he has a draw they’ve got very good equity vs our hand which makes me wanna call here and then re-evaluate turn. If the the turn is a blank and v bets maybe then shoving would be better as then our equity increases against flush draws.we we could also call turn and re-evaluate river?
thoughts please?
cheers.
June 2, 2013
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hello!
I would 3bet flop, raise not a shove, around 4k, usually I try to hit ‘time bank’ when I do this, cause I think if V is bluffing he might think you will fold pra a shove otf, and maybe shove all his bluff on you.
Put some hands for combo draws here: Ad8d,Kd8d,Qd8d,Jd8d,Td8d,9d8d,9d7d,8d7d,5d4d; and against this range V is 48.29% to win, with the money in the pot is profitable to gii here, if you are agains a set you are in bad shape off course.
Not sure if I like the call otf and reevaluate ott, if is a blank V can bet and fold perhaps? pot will have 5683 chips ott, hero with 7458 if I am not wrong, I guess you will have some folds if you shove on V raise ott on a blank card.
I like 3bet raise flop better.
September 14, 2014
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The thing is if we 3-bet flop we are giving v a chance to 4-bet shove with a draw. Don’t you think its better if we shove instead? which do you think is better?
June 2, 2013
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To me if you want to increase fold equity a shove is better, but all V´s bluffs will fold, if you raise he might shove a bluff thinking you can still fold, I think your hand has value in this, so 3bet raise and never fold. 
Let´s see if someone else thinks diferent.
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December 6, 2012
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Don’t worry about your FE vs draws; any draw you’d prefer him to fold isn’t going to fold.
September 14, 2014
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@focault, Ok but do you think calling the flop raise is fine? I mean if we literally know that v has a flush draw would u gii otf? i think we should as we’re a slight favourite but not by a huge margin. draws have good equity vs our hand here. The thing is we are not deep as such, so that kinda leans me more towards gii otf rather then calling the raise otf and re-evaluating turn ect If we were deep obv calling flop is better , as shoving 300bb with a pair would be totally terrible lol 😉
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