I would argue that this hand is just to vulnerable to be flatted pre when you’re this deep. You are fairly sure that the original limper will call (no, no read on him, but I have to say that anyone who seems to open limps will also often call a 3x raise OOP), and do you really wanted to go three ways to a pot with jacks at 90 bbs deep and an SPR of 10? I don’t. Anyway, I think a sizable 3bet pre is in order.

BUT, assuming you flat here, I just don’t think you can fold the flop. Without any decisive read, you have to think that QQ, KK, and AA are just as likely as 10 10 and 99 IMO. I even see this with 6’s and 7’s way too often, QJs, KQs. I know youre not in great shape against two over and a flush draw (hence why maybe you should 3bet pre), but you’re still a flip, and with the money already in the pot it becomes profitable.

I don’t know, I’d think I’d call here, and I’d weigh more towards calling the weaker I thought my opponents were. The weaker they are = the higher chance this push is worthless IMO.

almofadinhas said

rbbeagles13 said
… and do you really wanted to go three ways to a pot with jacks at 90 bbs deep and an SPR of 10? I don’t. Anyway, I think a sizable 3bet pre is in order.

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I dont think is actually ideal situation to be, but sometimes I fell like 3betting TT and JJ pre flop only isolates me against better hands, for worst that will set value, like if I 3bet this JJs, and V calls TTs (I assume rarely V will 4bet TT), V will look at TT more like a set mine hand, and will procede with caution after the flop. And when I get 4bet pre flop I don´t feel much confortable against that range. Obviously there is some sickos who will play 44 on 4bets, but I think this won´t happen too often.

When I call I fell like I leave worst hands on V´s range. Sometimes we have to give up on AKx kinda flop, other times we lose on 27T rainbow lol…

Playing and learning hehehe.

I’d have to disagree. Especially when your V shows up with a orse pair, a lot of players at the micro stakes have trouble folding 88 on a 9 high board, because the “default” I find they put a 3better on is AK. I think it’s a good spot, because you can stack on a flop like this, or even rep the AK if you have to turn your hand into a bluff. You create many different options and ways for you to win the hand, when it seems the only way for the V to do so is to hit the flop. Pretty good spot IMO.