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UTG folds.
Is the only move here a shove from UTG+1 with 13BB? Any case at all to be made for a fold due to position?
Poker Stars $4.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t4000/t8000 Blinds + t1000 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
3OutrWinz (MP2): BB = 6.7, t53335
MeoEnfrego (CO): BB = 19.8, t158522
mandelmand (BTN): BB = 60.1, t480640
hold'os (SB): BB = 21.8, t174112
zoli1965 (BB): BB = 15.8, t126134
mcuhet (UTG): BB = 21.2, t169894
QQuartzz (UTG+1): BB = 13.5, t107948
BiggerBaaang (UTG+2): BB = 9.3, t74157
Sandman333 (MP1): BB = 46.4, t370940
Pre Flop: (t21000) QQuartzz is UTG+1 with J
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July 3, 2010
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Only two stacks to worry about. Everyone else is calling off their whole stack or at least half of it so they need to wake up with a real hand. I shove here without blinking. We increase our stack by 20% if we get all folds.
With stacks this shallow you could see weaker suited Ace X hands call as well as KQ and maybe even slightly worse.
Tks guys. Figured as much just wanted outside perspective. FTR, my shove ran into KK… gg
July 3, 2010
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Well, frankly I think that people call wider on low stakes, but I could be wrong.
July 3, 2010
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Nah, you're correct.
You'll see the bb call with Ace anything and any pocket pair against a 10-15 bb shove from any position no matter what % of their own stack the call reps which to me just terrible.
Last night I final table bubbled the Daily Double A (sick brag about not being able to close tourneys) and saw a 30 bb open shove from UTG+1 get called from the sb who had 26 bb and called with KJs. That's strong.
I'm thinking in a $4 MTT we can profitable shove as low as A6s and also include 9Ts and 89s.
I think low stakes players fold hands they should call with and call with hands they should fold a whole lot.
Ducks and FK, I think you guys make a really good point in commenting that the competition level is very important when making a decision. Too often at these levels you see players berating “retarded play”. They often just can't see how their lack of adjustment is almost as poor. I suppose micro, mid and high stakes MTTs are different beasts really. Tks for input.
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