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Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
Forzani (MP1): BB = 27.9, t6987
kmo25 (MP2): BB = 36.3, t9064
luckybutt43 (CO): BB = 22.3, t5565
Porest (BTN): BB = 56.4, t14100
eXcIus1ve (SB): BB = 22.5, t5636
Loopholes (BB): BB = 60.8, t15200
russoooo (UTG): BB = 10.5, t2618
Tamonic (UTG+1): BB = 55.1, t13780
KING_CLUB8 (UTG+2): BB = 81.4, t20343
Pre Flop: (t600) Forzani is MP1 with 4
4
3 folds, Forzani raises to t555, kmo25 calls t555, 4 folds
Flop: (t1710) 7
Q 2 (2 players)
Forzani bets t750, kmo25 calls t750
Turn: (t3210) 2 (2 players)
Forzani checks, kmo25 checks
River: (t3210) 8 (2 players)
Forzani checks, kmo25 bets t2250, Our Move???
Without reads your only beating air…I fold, het bet roughly 2/3 pots on river, I dont think we are good often enough here to call.
JDOG1645 said:
Without reads your only beating air…I fold, het bet roughly 2/3 pots on river, I dont think we are good often enough here to call.
So here's his line: PF call, post flop c-bet float, turn check with position, river…..could have seen a showdown for free, or he could do a value bet. 2/3 pot on the river just seems to scream “fold you bitch”. I'm not too keen on calling here either, but his line doesn't make any sense. I should expect at least a bet on the turn with a Q or pairs higher than 77.
What do you think about a shove here on this river bet? I think the way he played he doesn't have AA, KK, QQ or AQ. Probably can't call me with 55 or 66….
June 11, 2010
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I don't think you can call here profitably. All you can catch is a bluff on this and I am not sure it is there enough of the time to make the call worth it. Fold and move to the next one.
I think his line does make sense, because lots of people check back on a street, particularly the turn, with top pair type hands for pot control. It's the dryest of flops, so he's not drawing. I just think you gotta fold.
pedactor said:
JDOG1645 said:
Without reads your only beating air…I fold, het bet roughly 2/3 pots on river, I dont think we are good often enough here to call.
So here's his line: PF call, post flop c-bet float, turn check with position, river…..could have seen a showdown for free, or he could do a value bet. 2/3 pot on the river just seems to scream “fold you bitch”. I'm not too keen on calling here either, but his line doesn't make any sense. I should expect at least a bet on the turn with a Q or pairs higher than 77.
What do you think about a shove here on this river bet? I think the way he played he doesn't have AA, KK, QQ or AQ. Probably can't call me with 55 or 66….
A shove ove rhis river bet is the last thing I would do…you will only get called by hands that beat you. I could see him betting a lot of hands on the river that beat us 55,66,99. He could play a set like this also. We are turning a hand that has little show down value at the river based on the action into a stone cold bluff. What are you representing taking that line?
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March 17, 2010
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jdog is wise… agree with everything he says.
2/3 screams value. He thinks you have a hand that wants to get to showdown. He checks back the turn for deception/pot control. Now he's got you thinking of shoving a tiny pair. That's why you bet 2/3 on the river with strong hands against a guy who clearly has a bluff catcher.
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