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February 2, 2013
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Hi guys I wanted to leave this question as general as possible but was mindful of the real possibility of requests to be more specific. So here goes with a small bit of info.
Local 40euro bar tourney. 18 players. 16 left.
18 minute blinds, 2,000\4000 – no antes ( too much hassle getting drunks etc to put them out)
average stack- 150,000
utg folds, them I have to act, holding AQo with 68,000.
A few loose players behind me who love to see a flop.
What to do?
Fold?
Limp Fold?
Limp call a raise?
Limp call a shove?
Raise small or big?
Raise fold?
Raise call a shove?
Open shove?
Any replies would be appreciated.
April 26, 2013
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Dunne much about live games, but without antes your M is more than 11, too big to shove imo, especially when you think you got an edge on the field (drunks etc… ^^).
I'd minclick it to 8690, then reevaluate on flop, maybe 4bet-get it in against a loose 3bettor etc.
Interested to know how you played it and what happened, though.
February 18, 2013
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I agree it's not a shove, it's raise-call, raise-fold, or raise-shove depending upon the action and opponents. There are lots of possible permutations, for example you might get flatted by a bigger loose stack, then re-raised by the big blind, in this case you have to evaluate how tight the BB is and if his squeeze range is wide. As Sen says would be good to know what happened.
Sen, what are you doing here with an 11BB stack? I picked up AQ UTG+1 in a tourney last night and shoved with 8 players at the table, button woke up with AK and it was game over. As AQ is marginal opening hand UTG+1 at full table do you think it's best to shove this with 11BBs from a later position? If so then I guess you can only fold because you don't have enough of a stack to raise fold. My thinking on the hand was I'd shoved the previous hand UTG with QJ suited and 8 BBs, and cos that got through then surely AQ had to be a shove in UTG+1. But perhaps QJ suited UTG with 8BBs wasn't a shove either. Although I guess it's situational depending upon sizes of other stacks, pay jumps, tightness of opponents etc.
February 2, 2013
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Thanks Sen, I raised 3x to 12,000 and it folded around to the big blind who raised it to 30,000.
I folded which i think was weak as the big blind was a Chinese gambly type of guy. He had over 200,000 chips.
There are a few guys in our regular game that know they can put serious pressure on the original raiser, with a 3 bet or even an all in. They know that you can't call without a premium hand. We all know each others game well, so the tight players are liable to get played back at.
AI29, I think this is an easy shove with the AQ.
April 26, 2013
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Agree with smallcat: Snapshove AQ, even from UTG with 11BB, especially with antes. You were just UL to run into AK, chance are you have a good chance to pick up some nice blinds+antes or flip for a double up often enough (against most pairs 66+ that probably call, depending on position) and sometime get even calls from AJo, ATs, maybe some BB that might call A8s+, KQ.
Always remember: In order to live (win!), you must be willing to die. 
Oh and your QJs shove was correct, too. I'd love to see AQ the next hand, because police may think I got crazy shoving any pair, any Ax and KTs+, so we increase our chance to get called by worse.
About his raise to 30k: not an easy spot imo. AJ I'd fold and wait for a sunnier day. If he is a thinking player and believes the same of you, he should know you wouldn't be too light too often from UTG here. But then again, with AQ and your stack of only M~8 if you fold, I'd just shove, especially with your read.
I don't have live-experience (until now, plan on changing that later this year), so let's see what more qualified people write about this hand.
February 18, 2013
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Lol, I fist pumped when I got AQ right after my QJ suited shove, then half fist pumped when guy called as he had been fairly sticky on the final table, then saw AK and wanted to fist pump my monitor, lol. Cheers for the responses, I did the math earlier and decided it was a shove but it's reassuring to hear others on here tell you the same!
Live situation above is an interesting one, I had AQ twice in a rebuy tourney live a couple of months back – first one I raised PF early position and got a re-raise and a shove and correctly folded to hands I was dominated by, second one I raised UTG, same guy as previous time re-raised and Chinese kid who had only sat down shoved. I thought for a while and folded again, I would have shoved to re-raise but shove put me off, turns out the re-raise was JJ but the kid overshoved with A6 offsuit.
I know dynamics are different above as it's not a rebuy but I think I agree with Sen AJ is a fold, but AQ against a gambly type I could find a shove here, yes you are showing strength UTG+1 but people do often open light in early positions and as his position completes the action there is more likelihood he is making a move here, plus he may be aware of the bubble and using this to add extra pressure. If he has AA or KK here do you think he would raise to 30k or think he might raise smaller in the hope he could induce better? Can't rule these hands out though although you do have a blocker to one of them.
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