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September 12, 2015
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As the title says, I’m just curious on the different opinions on what to do if you end up as a big or really big stack while there’s still like 1-4k people left in the MTT?
Would be real nice to see the discussion around this.. 🙂
Thanks!
September 12, 2015
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PS: atm in the $2-20 bounty builder, and I’m currently at 35th out of 2,4k players left, that’s why I’m asking :p
December 30, 2015
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Personally, in and Prog. KO, I think the best thing to do when deep is just play tight and use strong hands to trap. I really want to have a lot of chips when I get to the stage of the tourney where the early gamblers with nice bounties are on their way out and I can catch them as they fall. Chances are most people who run up big stacks early will lose them and that is the best time to have lots of chips. Bounty builders start at 8 minute levels and slow down to 10 then eventually 12 (very late) and I think a lot of people don’t think of these as regularly paced tournaments. These are big tournaments and can take 13 hours. People get addicted to the fast pace of the beginning and play it like a turbo.
Loosening up though, in calculated spots, the extra chips can be great for insurance and re-steal bounties. What I mean is, you can get in to re-steal side pots where the re-stealer may be a little lighter than the original all-in. the first all-in should be tighter knowing they have little fold equity with a bounty, and the bigger the bounty the more true this should be. Somewhat counter-intuitively, the bounty makes calling wider more correct as it sort of adds chips to the implied odds…but, greed too. The side pot not only serves as insurance in case you lose the main pot, you may also get the bounty for the re-stealer even if you lose the main pot.
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/rules/
The bounty is awarded to the player who wins the ‘relevant pot’ for the hand in question, which may be the main pot or one of several side pots. ‘Relevant pot’ means the pot in which the bounty player was all-in for their final chips.
I swear I’ve won bounties for the main pot without winning the side pot, but this sounds wrong after reading the rules here. I’ll have to look out for this in-game to see if I am right.
…that said, I try not to gamble in most spots. I’d rather be patient and wait for a strong hand and use the bounties to trap chasers. I often try to bet just enough so if the short stack goes all-in it will let me re-raise, especially if the short stack is right next to me and I want to let it generate action before it comes back around. I definitely watch for others doing this as well.
This TPE article is interesting. While it doesn’t deal with strategy related to chasing bounties or bounty chasers, or deep stack play, it is a good read: …..-strategy/
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September 12, 2015
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MovieFX said
Personally, in and Prog. KO, I think the best thing to do when deep is just play tight and use strong hands to trap. I really want to have a lot of chips when I get to the stage of the tourney where the early gamblers with nice bounties are on their way out and I can catch them as they fall. Chances are most people who run up big stacks early will lose them and that is the best time to have lots of chips. Bounty builders start at 8 minute levels and slow down to 10 then eventually 12 (very late) and I think a lot of people don’t think of these as regularly paced tournaments. These are big tournaments and can take 13 hours. People get addicted to the fast pace of the beginning and play it like a turbo.Loosening up though, in calculated spots, the extra chips can be great for insurance and re-steal bounties. What I mean is, you can get in to re-steal side pots where the re-stealer may be a little lighter than the original all-in. the first all-in should be tighter knowing they have little fold equity with a bounty, and the bigger the bounty the more true this should be. Somewhat counter-intuitively, the bounty makes calling wider more correct as it sort of adds chips to the implied odds…but, greed too. The side pot not only serves as insurance in case you lose the main pot, you may also get the bounty for the re-stealer even if you lose the main pot.
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/rules/
The bounty is awarded to the player who wins the ‘relevant pot’ for the hand in question, which may be the main pot or one of several side pots. ‘Relevant pot’ means the pot in which the bounty player was all-in for their final chips.
I swear I’ve won bounties for the main pot without winning the side pot, but this sounds wrong after reading the rules here. I’ll have to look out for this in-game to see if I am right.
…that said, I try not to gamble in most spots. I’d rather be patient and wait for a strong hand and use the bounties to trap chasers. I often try to bet just enough so if the short stack goes all-in it will let me re-raise, especially if the short stack is right next to me and I want to let it generate action before it comes back around. I definitely watch for others doing this as well.
This TPE article is interesting. While it doesn’t deal with strategy related to chasing bounties or bounty chasers, or deep stack play, it is a good read: …..-strategy/
Thanks for taking time to answer in such depth 🙂
I ended at 64th out of 9k starting, and yes, I figured it was a regular tournament, cus I wasnt in bed before 03:30 AM lol.
I’ll check the article out 🙂
Thanks again for answering my question 🙂
September 12, 2015
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How about in a regular MTT? 🙂
Currently 10th out of 1295 people remaining in an $0,27 🙂
Thanks!
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December 6, 2012
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Just try to play well and find good spots. There’s nothing magical about having a big stack that should cause you to deviate drastically from how you’d otherwise play, especially if no one else at the table is especially deep. Don’t be fooled by the idea that you can “bully the table” or “take big gambles” or something – those are common misunderstandings with no theoretical foundation. Mostly those chips will be there to cushion bad lucky you may run into later, whether that’s a cooler, a bad beat, a dry spell, whatever. Having a lot of chips shouldn’t really cause you to play much differently.
September 12, 2015
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Foucault said
Just try to play well and find good spots. There’s nothing magical about having a big stack that should cause you to deviate drastically from how you’d otherwise play, especially if no one else at the table is especially deep. Don’t be fooled by the idea that you can “bully the table” or “take big gambles” or something – those are common misunderstandings with no theoretical foundation. Mostly those chips will be there to cushion bad lucky you may run into later, whether that’s a cooler, a bad beat, a dry spell, whatever. Having a lot of chips shouldn’t really cause you to play much differently.
Okey mate 🙂 Thanks alot!
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August 25, 2012
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Yeah, just going to second what Andrew said, with one addition. The effective stack is the one that matters, so you having 200bb and your opponent having 100bb doesn’t change anything since you’re still 100bb deep (except in cases where you feel like being able to put your opponent at risk for their tournament life might make them fold more, but those are rare).
The exception is bounty builder or super KO/progressive KO tournaments – in those events, you need to be widening your range against players whom you cover, as there is an added incentive to play hands against them since you will pick up their bounties if you bust them. Being a big stack early on in a bounty-heavy tournament is a good reason to go all-out to pick up those bounties – you can sometimes pick up enough bounty money to effectively cash the tournament in level 3 or 4 if you run good early. Winning chips and busting people gives you the power to bust more people, so the tournament becomes exponentially bounty-heavy.
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