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UTG was very active so his raise didn't mean much to me and the flat from MP1 was screaming small pair. I had been active as the short stack for while and once I doubled I 3-bet shoved twice in position and they folded. This was about 10 minutes since my last move.
I gave myself 2 options, shove or make it 1950 to rep AA or KK setting up a pot size shove on flop if 1 player flats. Being a $26 buyin and have seen people flat 1/3 of their stack and go with any piece or draw I decided to just shove since MP1 was OOP and might shove any low flop with a PP or draw. Most $26 players think 3-bet means AK everytime so he could actually do this with nothing on the flop putting me in a bad spot but I would still have just enough for a 3-bet shove stack if that did happen.
I'm pretty sure the majority will say shove but my other thinking is UTG probably has 1 of my outs if I'm against the pair. Don't really like flatting at all with the pot already being a decent size but is 27bbs too much to shove?
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SB: BB = 8.9, t2135
BB: BB = 19.9, t4780
UTG: BB = 49.0, t11760
UTG+1: BB = 44.4, t10656
MP1: BB = 28.3, t6797
MP2: BB = 26.3, t6301
CO: BB = 33.4, t8025
Hero (BTN): BB = 27.0, t6485
Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with A
K
UTG raises to t560, 1 fold, MP1 calls t560, 2 folds…
I think i like a shove in this spot for several reasons.
- If we take the route of 3betting we are not folding to a 4betshove, so put the pressure on them by shoving first
- If we pick up the pot uncontested we add approx 15% to our stack.
- Our shove may be perceived as a squeeze and get called light
- I think MP1 could easily have a low PP and fold to our shove, as i feel 99+ shows more aggression pre.
I agree with you that most will say shove but I am interested to hear their opinions as well
July 3, 2010
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Shove seems like AK a bunch but shove also seems normal here.
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March 17, 2010
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3betshove said:
I think i like a shove in this spot for several reasons.
- If we take the route of 3betting we are not folding to a 4betshove, so put the pressure on them by shoving first
- If we pick up the pot uncontested we add approx 15% to our stack.
- Our shove may be perceived as a squeeze and get called light
- I think MP1 could easily have a low PP and fold to our shove, as i feel 99+ shows more aggression pre.
I agree with you that most will say shove but I am interested to hear their opinions as well
+1 great reasoning.
3betshove said:
I think i like a shove in this spot for several reasons.
- If we take the route of 3betting we are not folding to a 4betshove, so put the pressure on them by shoving first
- If we pick up the pot uncontested we add approx 15% to our stack.
- Our shove may be perceived as a squeeze and get called light
- I think MP1 could easily have a low PP and fold to our shove, as i feel 99+ shows more aggression pre.
I agree with you that most will say shove but I am interested to hear their opinions as well
+2
flgtb786 said:
3betshove said:
I think i like a shove in this spot for several reasons.
- If we take the route of 3betting we are not folding to a 4betshove, so put the pressure on them by shoving first
- If we pick up the pot uncontested we add approx 15% to our stack.
- Our shove may be perceived as a squeeze and get called light
- I think MP1 could easily have a low PP and fold to our shove, as i feel 99+ shows more aggression pre.
I agree with you that most will say shove but I am interested to hear their opinions as well
+2
+3 This is fantastic reasoning and I'd shove as well in this spot.
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