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May 30, 2012
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2r turbo 7k, post addon
Assuming readless, straightforward opponent
whats hands should i be bluffing with, and what is the worst value hand i can bet here?
PokerStars - $2+$0.20|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com LP: 14,875.00 CO: 12,017.00 BTN: 23,735.00 SB: 11,010.00 BB: 11,920.00 UTG: 16,310.00 Hero (UTG+1): 22,673.00 MP: 9,070.00 MP+1: 8,950.00 LP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00,
SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00,
MP+1 posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00 Pre Flop: (1050.00) Hero has XX fold, Hero raises to 800.00, fold, fold, LP calls 800.00, fold, fold, fold, fold Flop: (2650.00, 2 players) Th 6s Jd Hero bets 1,600.00, LP calls 1,600.00 Turn: (5850.00, 2 players) Jc Hero checks, LP checks River: (5850.00, 2 players) 5d Hero bets 4,400.00, LP calls 4,400.00
July 10, 2012
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Spoke to Duggs about this hand on Skype earlier, Here's the transcript (He first asked me what i thought his range was):
November 30, 2012
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Jupp. Agree. Range is QT or stronger or total air. His range is heavily weightedto 77-99. Perhaps T9, QT KT and a rare AT that didnt bet turn for x reason.
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May 30, 2012
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i think AQ/98 are definitely in his range before the river bet also
November 30, 2012
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they dont stab the turn?
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May 30, 2012
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sometimes, but not always, i think underpairs stab the turn also
November 30, 2012
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Yeah, but i think the checkback is more often a made marginal hand than a drawing hand. Calling and not trying to take it away on the turn is soo bad if you dont have any SD value.
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January 22, 2013
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my big question is if we are vs a weak player in a 2r why are we caring about what our range looks like when he will not give a shit what it looks like just look at his hand and say yes or no
May 30, 2012
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rumsey182 said:
my big question is if we are vs a weak player in a 2r why are we caring about what our range looks like when he will not give a shit what it looks like just look at his hand and say yes or no
just because he cant hand read doesnt mean we shouldnt hand read him. i was planning on c/f turn as i dont think he bets worse than a J often enough and i can confidently go for value on river when he checks back
January 22, 2013
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duggs said:
rumsey182 said:
my big question is if we are vs a weak player in a 2r why are we caring about what our range looks like when he will not give a shit what it looks like just look at his hand and say yes or no
just because he cant hand read doesnt mean we shouldnt hand read him. i was planning on c/f turn as i dont think he bets worse than a J often enough and i can confidently go for value on river when he checks back
we can guess at some hand ranges, but just saying readless random and putting a texture down doesn't give a complete picture. Timing, any other hands played, simply the way the field seems to be playing that night, can all factor in. I don't like trying to take stabs without a clear idea of all the aspects and likely you should be knowing better then anyone else just looking at this and throwing an abitrary range out there
May 30, 2012
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rumsey182 said:
duggs said:
rumsey182 said:
my big question is if we are vs a weak player in a 2r why are we caring about what our range looks like when he will not give a shit what it looks like just look at his hand and say yes or no
just because he cant hand read doesnt mean we shouldnt hand read him. i was planning on c/f turn as i dont think he bets worse than a J often enough and i can confidently go for value on river when he checks back
we can guess at some hand ranges, but just saying readless random and putting a texture down doesn't give a complete picture. Timing, any other hands played, simply the way the field seems to be playing that night, can all factor in. I don't like trying to take stabs without a clear idea of all the aspects and likely you should be knowing better then anyone else just looking at this and throwing an abitrary range out there
This is pretty frustrating, i put readless random since i hadnt played any hands with him really, and all his stats were extremely uncoverged and not extreme enough to draw any conclusions from. Timing is a tell you need a baseline to determine with which i cant have had here, how the field seems to play on the night is absolutely irrelevant to how he will play.
I had A10o here and thought it was a pretty easy value, and obv we can use default ranges v randoms.
i really dont get what you are trying to say?
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