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July 12, 2010 - 12:57 am
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I hadn’t played a hand in quite a while…  In fact, I haven’t played a hand at this table…  15-20 minutes here…

 

Villian had played a lot of pots, chipped up, I put him on the aggro side but nothing had been shown down…  Does that even matter here and what do we do?  I ruled out AQ, maaaaybe KQ, but what are we ahead of here with the action other than maybe KK (I think he plays faster pre) and some sort of draw/combo draw?  What do we do here?  Still 550 left, nowhere near the bubble, I’m top 100 in chips, well above average.

 

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PokerStars Game #46656905920: Tournament #288447201, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2010/07/12 0:47:52 ET
Table '288447201 66' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: steelpens518 (100492 in chips) 
Seat 2: ozdogg (48465 in chips) 
Seat 3: depedretti (35010 in chips) 
Seat 4: eldrx (47111 in chips) 
Seat 5: TheMayne (45962 in chips) 
Seat 6: hwy187 (62516 in chips) 
Seat 7: wikkinger88 (77446 in chips) 
Seat 8: json1 (17190 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: lainie1072 (54149 in chips) 
steelpens518: posts the ante 100
ozdogg: posts the ante 100
depedretti: posts the ante 100
eldrx: posts the ante 100
TheMayne: posts the ante 100
hwy187: posts the ante 100
wikkinger88: posts the ante 100
json1: posts the ante 100
lainie1072: posts the ante 100
lainie1072: posts small blind 400
steelpens518: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lainie1072 [Ac Ad]
ozdogg: folds 
depedretti: folds 
eldrx: raises 1600 to 2400
TheMayne: folds 
hwy187: folds 
wikkinger88: folds 
json1: folds 
lainie1072: raises 3725 to 6125
steelpens518: folds 
eldrx: calls 3725
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qd Ts]
lainie1072: bets 8250
eldrx: raises 11750 to 20000
lainie1072: ???
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July 12, 2010 - 1:05 am
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pretty gross.. any read on how tight or aggro the guy is?  People will spazz out with anything in $2 tournaments.  Prob is on a draw of some kind often enough though.

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July 12, 2010 - 3:00 am
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Use the hand convertor its super sexy Cool

This is a very nasty spot his raise commits him to the pot.  He either has a draw and we are flipping or he has us crushed, maybe 30% of the time we are way ahead.  I guess I puke in my mouth and kick the shit out of my dog and with a long siiigggghhh click foldCry  

 

j/k  I dont have a dog Wink

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July 12, 2010 - 2:52 pm
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I hate these spots. I play this tournament a lot and these spots are beyond routine. Gotta use whether or not you have a read to make the call. In general at this level try to not give people a lot of credit. From my experience it is pretty likely that he was holding TXs (probably A-Ts, K-Ts), caught the flop and is assuming you don’t have a queen because two of them are out there. I tend to run into a lot of this style of aggression from guys who have caught some piece of a paired flop and are just assuming you didn’t hit the pair and are going to be afraid of it and giving virtually no credit to the fact that you could be sitting on an overpair. I would probably take the risk and make the call, experience wise I find I am usually winning this >70% of the time and in a real good position.

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July 12, 2010 - 2:57 pm
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I think this is a fold. You haven’t played a hand in 15-20 minutes and suddenly he’s picking it check/committ half of himself in a 3bet pot oop to you on a QQT flop?  He has plenty of Q’s in his open/call range, as well as 1010.  Don’t get it in here unless you have a read he’s a monkey

 

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July 12, 2010 - 4:13 pm
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Thanks for all the replies guys.  This is a super gross, puke-filled moment that one generally doesn’t find often at this buy-in level (generally, the stack sized dictate this getting all-in pre with ths action…  mainly because 1/both parties are generally under 30 bigs and when it goes raise/reraise, it gets all in).  I think that one of my problems is that I do not take stacks into play and what I can do if I make a big laydown (though not sure how “big” this laydown would be).  Had I folded, I would have still had an abover average stack.  Even though I didn’t have a read on THIS player, I had seen this action at this level too often where people show down JJ or KK.  That’s my mistake, as there are many more hands in his raise/call range that hit this flop harder than KK/JJ.  Of course, villain had tens here and I got in horrible.  Sigh…

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July 12, 2010 - 4:17 pm
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HITTHEPANDA said:

I think this is a fold. You haven’t played a hand in 15-20 minutes and suddenly he’s picking it check/committ half of himself in a 3bet pot oop to you on a QQT flop?  He has plenty of Q’s in his open/call range, as well as 1010.  Don’t get it in here unless you have a read he’s a monkey

 

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Quoted for good advice and awesome monkey picture.

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July 12, 2010 - 11:06 pm
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HITTHEPANDA said:

I think this is a fold. You haven’t played a hand in 15-20 minutes and suddenly he’s picking it check/committ half of himself in a 3bet pot oop to you on a QQT flop?  He has plenty of Q’s in his open/call range, as well as 1010.  Don’t get it in here unless you have a read he’s a monkey

 

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+1 mfor the advice and sick monkey shot

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July 13, 2010 - 2:16 pm
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