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What are some key strategy changes when playing a 6 max MTT compared to full tables?
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November 12, 2010 - 6:56 pm
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I have only played a few of these and the blinds keep eating up my chipstack and I always seem to be shortstacked waiting for a playable hand. I know I must not playing a wide enough range because I am not sure exactly what I should be playing. It's low stakes $10 buy-in type. “The Others” seem to be playing almost any two cards much of the time and are in every hand right up until the flop when the first to open bets the pot…  When I finally get in a hand with my QQ or AK someone rivers me out with a 3-5 off suit 7 high straight.

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November 13, 2010 - 4:32 pm
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opening your 2 card start range is key and uping the aggression level is my approach to 6 max play. i love 6 handed poker the best so much action utg+1 is highjack so early postion opens also look like steals so 3 and 4 betting becomes the norm and alot of big hands get paid off, also you will find alot less coolers as the hand volume decreases so dont be upset when you aces get walked

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Thanks! Would you mind telling me what would be your typical range in the hijack pos and would your raise sizes be like at a lower stakes rebuy MTT like ~$1k $10 buy-in. I know I will have to experiment with bet sizing for the dynamics of the table and different stages but a general range you would use would be great to know. 

any info would be greatly appreciated! 

 

D.

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Disclaimer: I am a 6-max cash player, not a tourney expert…yet. 🙂

Obviously you will get used to 6max play the more you play, but the quickest way to adjust is this:

 

-Play tight in the first two positions, it will keep you out of trouble. Maybe something like AK, AQ, ATss+, all suited broadways, 66-AA, with some adjustments depending on stack sizes.

-Hijack loosen up, open most suited aces, suited connectors down to 45ss, all pairs, hands like J9ss, K9ss, etc. Adjust depending on who the button is and if they're giving you grief, if so tighten up a bit.

-Button loosen up even more, see what the blinds let you get away with, it can be profitable to raise any two cards if they are not defending/3betting enough. If they are decent, something like 30-50% of hands is what I like to open.

-You will have a lot of battles out of position where you are in the BB against a loose button opener. Mix in light 3bets but don't get crazy if you're not comfortable. Mess around with taking away postflop if deep enough by flatting and trying out different lines like check raising the flop, check/calling flop donking turn, donking flop, etc and see what works. Attack people when they have a wide range which means they will not have a strong hand very often on many board types.

-The more often you're opening, the smaller your raise size should be. So open the button like 2x-2.3x, hijack 2.3x-3x, and early position 2.5x-3x IMO. Depends on stack sizes also, once you get shorter you might want to min raise everything.

I hope that helps at least a bit!

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Basically the more cards that are dealt preflop increases the chance that a card is dealt and decreases its value.(Full Ring)

(6-Max) The chance a card is dealt pre-flop decreases and the value of the card increases.   If you have a range that is working for you in full-ring go ahead and widen your range a little for six max. Also as mentioned previous up your agression, because the chance for suckouts increases because it is higher probability that the card someone needs is left in the deck, since only twelve are dealt at the beginning, your agression needs to compensate for this.

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People grossly overvalue hands both preflop and postflop in 6 max mtt's. They understand you need to be more aggressive but the majority of people don't realize the adjustments don't need to be that drastic.

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FkCoolers said:

People grossly overvalue hands both preflop and postflop in 6 max mtt's. They understand you need to be more aggressive but the majority of people don't realize the adjustments don't need to be that drastic.


 

very true…you should stab a lot but still have it when you go with it

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Thanks for the great info guys. I will make some adjustments and let you know how it goes. I should be able to get some in this weekend.

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someone once told me to just pretend that the first three guys to act all folded.  I dont know if that is a 100% solid approach or not, but it kind of works for me.

Obviously there are some other adjustments (I tend to 3 bet light from the button and blinds a little more, etc) but its a good starting point I think.

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Killingbird said:

someone once told me to just pretend that the first three guys to act all folded.  I dont know if that is a 100% solid approach or not, but it kind of works for me.


 

I have actually heard this as well.

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Thanks again guys. I think I had my best game so far by following the principles here. The table was tight before the break so I was able to capitalize and had a good chipstack going into the add-on (which is almost a first). I ended up blowing out in 12th (before the money) by the BB when I opened it up 3x with 88. he called, saw the flop J-10-7, he checked, I raised 1/2 pot and he re-raised…. I went all in, he followed (he had slightly more chips than I did but we both had around 17-19BB).

Not sure if it was the right move or if I should have thought he had either 89 or trips and folded or shoved pre flop (sometimes I find it hard to shove when I am close to the money even with premiums). I think I went all in for a couple of reasons. One being that he re raised my raise like two hands prior and marginally beat me and kinda wanted to get even, another, because I was doing pretty good up to that point (I think I was 4th or 5th as it wasn't a very deep tourney and the top two had most of the chips) so I thought I had a good chance of taking the pot down without a showdown.

 

Looking back I think I either should have just called his bet and try for a straight or trips(I tend to be stupid and over bet) or just folded before the turn because of the two overcards on the table.

 

All in all it was a good learning experience and I think overall I improved especially in the early stages. 

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