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Was playing with Spot_on the entire tourny up til this hand. He had been 3/4betting a lot more than people normally do in these mtts. Showed down light a few times. When I c/r the flop he 4bet me within 2 sec. I didn't 3bet pre because I was pretty sure he's never folding and is flatting/4betting 100% of the time then I'm in an awkward spot. As played on the flop is jamming>folding?
Stage #368010245 Tourney ID 5749262 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 600 – 2010-09-23 01:41:18 (ET)
Table: 22 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 2 – NITPATRICK (14,810 in chips)
Seat 3 – BUZZ68 (5,756 in chips)
Seat 4 – HOLDEMH8R (14,295 in chips)
Seat 6 – SPOT_ON (36,030 in chips)
Seat 7 – STARKZ (15,728 in chips)
Seat 8 – NEW_IN_AZ (11,095 in chips)
Seat 9 – SLICKMUCK (28,247 in chips)
NITPATRICK – Ante 75
BUZZ68 – Ante 75
HOLDEMH8R – Ante 75
SPOT_ON – Ante 75
STARKZ – Ante 75
NEW_IN_AZ – Ante 75
SLICKMUCK – Ante 75
SLICKMUCK – Posts small blind 300
NITPATRICK – Posts big blind 600
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SLICKMUCK [Ac Jd]
BUZZ68 – Folds
HOLDEMH8R – Folds
SPOT_ON – Raises 1,644 to 1,644
STARKZ – Folds
NEW_IN_AZ – Folds
SLICKMUCK – Calls 1,344
NITPATRICK – Folds
*** FLOP *** [10h 3h Ad]
SLICKMUCK – Checks
SPOT_ON – Bets 1,855
SLICKMUCK – Raises 5,620 to 5,620
SPOT_ON – Raises 8,730 to 10,585
SLICKMUCK -??
July 3, 2010
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I don't hate the flat pre but I don't like the flop raise. I think this deep you want to flat the c-bet and evaluate the Turn based on your player reads.
Why are you raising if you're unsure what to do if re-raised?
As played you've now invested 25% of your stack without having a plan.
I think it could be folded pre but agree with Fk on the rest of the assesment.
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March 17, 2010
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FKCoolers nailed it. If we raise we're either folding out worse or getting raised by better. We have a hand with showdown value that is not crushing so I'd keep this pot as small as possible and try to get to a river.
RonFezBuddy said:
FKCoolers nailed it. If we raise we're either folding out worse or getting raised by better. We have a hand with showdown value that is not crushing so I'd keep this pot as small as possible and try to get to a river.
roger that. C/C all day on the flop.
oh and to answer your question as to what to do as played: snap folding to the 4bet he made on the flop.
FkCoolers said:
I don't hate the flat pre but I don't like the flop raise. I think this deep you want to flat the c-bet and evaluate the Turn based on your player reads.
Why are you raising if you're unsure what to do if re-raised?
As played you've now invested 25% of your stack without having a plan.
I dont hate the reasoning, but it sounds as if we're up against some crazy maniac based on the reads. 3/4betting all over the place and has shown down light a few times. Granted this particular hand he's open with a raise he hasn't 3bet anyone pre. But against this type of LAG opponent who could definately be opening light with stack size and agression, we are crushing his range more than not here…. right? Definately go along with u on why are we raising withoout a plan tho. Would putting the chips in the middle be waaaaaayyyyyy spewy here?
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