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Weird line from V OTR, FT
almofadinhas
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August 5, 2017 - 12:15 pm
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Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (3,600/7,200 blinds, 900 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 262,614 (36.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 165,145 (22.9 bb)
CO: 47,969 (6.7 bb)
BTN: 262,272 (36.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2spade Jspade
CO folds, BTN calls 7,200, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: (25,200) 3spade 2heart Tspade (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (25,200) Kspade (3 players)
SB bets 15,876, Hero calls 15,876, BTN folds

River: (56,952) Jdiamond (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 39,600, SB raises to 201,600, Hero calls 101,569 and is all-in?

Results: 339,290 pot
Final Board: 3spade 2heart Tspade Kspade Jdiamond
SB showed 5heart Aspade and lost (-165,145 net)
Hero showed 2spade Jspade and won 339,290 (174,145 net)

So this one is Final Table, I thought this was a really weird move from V, didn´t see much sense in it, what is your thoughts nation? what is V rep? Thanks!

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I guess maybe he could have something like a weak Ax of spades or a weak flush? Or 22/33. Expect him to lead some flops seeing that no one raised preflop, but he could also go for a check-raise on the flop with those hands. At the same time, it seems weird checking those hands on the river, when there are a decent amount of hands you can check behind. Giving how the action went I would expect him to value bet all sets and flushes on the river. If he has some two pair hands I also expect some bets or check-calls on the river. Check-raise seems unlikely in my eyes. So I dont know what he is repping and seems like a pretty easy call IMO. 

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it much depends on our read on the villain. Important thing is whether he’s aggressive or passive pre. 

Better players would probably 3bet most suited A against button limp. 

So the questions I would ask myself in this spot : would he 3bet suited Aces pre? would he bet 60% of pot if he hit his flush on the turn? 

For me, his range at this spot would definitely contain bluffs with As. You also beat sets like 222 or 333(which he could play this way, hoping for check raise on the flop and trying to get value on the river). I would be only be worried only about Qhigh flushes at this spot but his line looks very bluffy. I would call in this spot. (I didn’t see the spoiler yet)

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You’re so under-repped here with the third nuts that this is pretty close to a snap-call. SB can probably do this with worse flushes, and might even be able to do it with Q9.

I think kardi31 has it nailed when pointing out that villain will most likely raise a lot of suited Ax preflop. I don’t necessarily think the line looks particularly bluffy (although villain can probably have at least some bluffs), but I think there are so few combos that actually beat you compared to all kinds of 9 high flushes and worse, that it’s not possible to fold here.

Worth noting that villain is probably making a mistake here jamming worse flushes, since the CO is so short. It’s really hard for villain to c/jam much here unless he/she thinks you’re calling turn and betting river way too wide.

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