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Wait to be first in or take a flip/dominated?
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April 16, 2012 - 1:36 am
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15 left itm in $22 mtt on 888 with 12 minute blinds. Villian seems to be a good thinking player and is playing solid but a bit tight. Villian 19/11 over 93 hands, me 13/7 (both playing tight as everyone is a calling station at this site:)  He has also folded to my shoves even with his stack earlier so I think I actually have fold equity vs him if first in.

His first raise for ages and he's UTG so I figure I'm a flip at best but also likely up against an overpair.  Should I wait to be first in or for something with more equity or just get it in here?

Ty in advance.

 

Cassava Poker $20 + $2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t600/t1200 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

SB: t26472 22.06 BBs
Hero (BB): t8542 7.12 BBs
UTG: t82212 68.51 BBs
UTG+1: t34460 28.72 BBs
MP1: t13248 11.04 BBs
MP2: t13392 11.16 BBs
CO: t12349 10.29 BBs
BTN: t14489 12.07 BBs

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is BB with 3 of clubs 3 of diamonds
UTG raises to t2580, 7 folds

Final Pot: t3000
UTG wins t2580
(Rake: t420)

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April 16, 2012 - 4:45 am
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I doubt that you have fold equity. He is raising into a table full of shortstacks and you w 7BB in the BB, so he is probably never opening without the intention of calling, which means you are probably not getting the right odds, esp $EV, to call. You are obv very shortstacked, but I think you can still fold and then you have one orbit to find a hand you are comfortable jamming, especially into the other shortstacks, against which you are probably gonna have FE.

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April 16, 2012 - 9:56 am
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this is an easy fold. calling off with 33 is never good, as its behind almost everything. Yes, wait for your allin vigor. gl

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April 16, 2012 - 8:09 pm
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better off shoving the next 2 hands in a row with any 2 imo

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April 16, 2012 - 11:30 pm
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bennymacca said:

better off shoving the next 2 hands in a row with any 2 imo

agreed

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I have the villian's range to be
77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo which is 11% of hands less A9s, KTs and QTs

 

Against this range you have 40% equity and no fold equity.

 

The chipEV of getting it in here is: 0.4(9142) – 0.6(7342) = -748.4 chips or -0.62 bbs

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April 17, 2012 - 7:59 am
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Agree to folding and above. Very likely he has a strong hand here with the 5 stacks with <10 bbs behind that he should be calling their reshoves.

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April 17, 2012 - 11:35 am
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Thanks all. Figured it was a fold and it’s good to get confirmation.
Cheers from Aus:)

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What are you guys calling with here? 66, KQ+?

 

edit: shipping, not calling. the “calling off with 33” post above threw me off

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Without pokerstoving I'd say that I'm definetly going with 88+, AJs+ and probably fold everything else. To me, ATs and 77 is right on the boarderline.

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