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read is that villian is fairly competant. we've been in a couple pots. he is capable of floating flop vs flop cbet. i decided to barrel turn if was non threatening. rivered wt i thought was bingo at the time. definately gonna bet that river for value and he shoves??? no way he caught runner runner clubs…. is there??
bjizz
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
proJJspect (SB): t6160 77 BBs
maxman2424 (BB): t11376 142.20 BBs
JOE_IS_SEXY (UTG): t5573 69.66 BBs
Hero (UTG+1): t12199 152.49 BBs
Imee66 (UTG+2): t5535 69.19 BBs
Master_Jedi2 (MP1): t9098 113.72 BBs
Guillesasaud (MP2): t4415 55.19 BBs
lucluc69 (CO): t5525 69.06 BBs
BENBALDWIN (BTN): t2760 34.50 BBs
Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is UTG+1 with K
8
1 fold, Hero raises to t200, 1 fold, Master_Jedi2 calls t200, 5 folds
Flop: (t520) 6
Q 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t375, Master_Jedi2 calls t375
Turn: (t1270) T (2 players)
Hero bets t755, Master_Jedi2 calls t755
River: (t2780) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t2122, Master_Jedi2 raises to t7768 all in, Hero folds
This same action on the river (bet/fold), but i prefer to bet less (1525), it seems hard to him to pay on the river with naked queen. And I dont think that this board good enough for him to bluff with whole his stack.
June 22, 2010
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Not sure I agree with your preflop bet, K8o from early position is not a strong raising hand when blinds are still fairly low, I would have let this go unless I was trying something. But since you did make it I do agree with the CB as you caught some of the flop. However, I think I would be prepared to check fold the turn and the river with the read you provided.
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July 20, 2010
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never open this pre flop at this stage of a tourney from that position and never folding on the end. the situation you find yourself in is exactly why you dont play these hands at this stage of a tourney.
Def a tricky river spot…I'd recommend folding pre as well. As far as river goes I don't think I'm folding here like ttwist said there are times he could have worse 8's as well.
I would call on the river. I think any hand that has you beat he would have re-raised pre i.e. QQ or TT. I think he is hitting the flush such a small percentage of the time, to call in this spot is profitable the majority of the time. This is def. a tough spot and folding and getting those chips back later is a solid idea but IMO calling and accumilating chips is the best plan.
October 6, 2010
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AcQc and KcQc are both in his range, but so are a lot of worse eights as well.
as everyone else said though, sigh call river, but fold pre
i open fold this pf every time in this position. Now if you wanted to establish a looser image try opening this type of hand in the hijack or something….but this early with no antes i'm never opening this even if it folded to me in teh sb this early in teh mtt.
PF is spew in a $2 MTT pre-antes. you're going to get flatted way too often, your hand plays terribly postflop and there isn't much in the pot worth stealing.
Turn is also spew imo. not sure what we're getting to fold and that seems a better card for his range than ours.
river seems totally fine iyam. i doubt many competent people are ever bluff-shoving this river in a $2 MTT and he has to have more slow-played sets/straights and backdoored flushes than worse 8x.
May 26, 2010
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ttwist said:
never open this pre flop at this stage of a tourney from that position and never folding on the end. the situation you find yourself in is exactly why you dont play these hands at this stage of a tourney.
such good advice 🙂
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