after his shove all in, with the additional outs is this a call if we give him credit for having a Q? How wrong am I for not cbetting flop.
bjizz
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t60/t120 Blinds + t15 – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
BJIZZLE44 (BB): BB = 43.7, t5240
TIranITar11 (UTG): BB = 44.4, t5325
Arsam_Shark (UTG+1): BB = 8.7, t1047
guiq (MP1): BB = 47.1, t5654
231holly168 (MP2): BB = 35.0, t4195
alex5554 (CO): BB = 38.5, t4620
TurBo4U (BTN): BB = 24.3, t2915
jtaranczuk (SB): BB = 18.5, t2220
Pre Flop: (t300) BJIZZLE44 is BB with K A
4 folds, alex5554 calls t120, 2 folds, BJIZZLE44 raises to t450, alex5554 calls t330
Flop: (t1080) Q 2 Q (2 players)
BJIZZLE44 checks, alex5554 checks
Turn: (t1080) K (2 players)
BJIZZLE44 bets t695, alex5554 raises to t4155 all in, BJIZZLE44 calls t3460
I dont think its horrible that you didnt bet this flop but I actually like to bet it more times than not because we probably have the best hand now on a dry board. I dont like the call on the turn, he certainly has a Q so we need either a K or spade and some spades are counterfitted due to him making a house. So lets say you have 8 outs for the flush and 2 outs for the house so your about 22% to make your hand. I dont think your getting the correct odds to call and it cripples you.
July 3, 2010
C-bet a paired board like this when you take the lead pre by 3 betting. Life gets a lot easier.
If you c-bet and he flats you can then check the Turn and make a decision from there.
As played you're repping that the King hit you and you're getting jammed on so it's usually a fold unless you have very specific reads on your opponent.
This is a spot where checking again on the Turn to control the pot size isn't terrible since now you have showdown value. I wouldn't say you're likely to get 2 streets of value from worse hands so I don't like betting the turn for that reason.
Maybe you get floated once by a mid-pair but I doubt it. That really leaves worse Kx hands to pay you off and the odds of AK vs Kx just isn't that great.
I feel like the only hand you're up against that you're ahead of his JT with a single spade in their hand.
FkCoolers said:
C-bet a paired board like this when you take the lead pre by 3 betting. Life gets a lot easier.
If you c-bet and he flats you can then check the Turn and make a decision from there.
As played you're repping that the King hit you and you're getting jammed on so it's usually a fold unless you have very specific reads on your opponent.
This is a spot where checking again on the Turn to control the pot size isn't terrible since now you have showdown value. I wouldn't say you're likely to get 2 streets of value from worse hands so I don't like betting the turn for that reason.
Maybe you get floated once by a mid-pair but I doubt it. That really leaves worse Kx hands to pay you off and the odds of AK vs Kx just isn't that great.
I feel like the only hand you're up against that you're ahead of his JT with a single spade in their hand.
Awesome analysis! How did u get like this? Its so funny, haha. When points or strategy are pointed out in the forums its very easy to see. But in the flow of the game its mind boggling at times. Does this thinking process develops with time? It's clear to me now wt separates the different levels of players.
bjizz
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