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TT vs Trap or Crap
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October 23, 2015 - 8:08 pm
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Had a wierd spot. I was rather tight villan was pretty active.

Poker Stars $40+$4 No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t150/t300 Blinds + t40 – 9 players – View hand 2806351
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col59erison (MP2): t4735 M = 5.85
WolfRiver (CO): t1150 M = 1.42
IAdjust2U (BTN): t3299 M = 4.07
OtDushi (SB): t21487 M = 26.53
Gabbeli1961 (BB): t4610 M = 5.69
lovemontoro (UTG): t6261 M = 7.73
osito_ruin (UTG+1): t7263 M = 8.97
Hero (UTG+2): t7083 M = 8.74
craigbor18 (MP1): t5230 M = 6.46

Pre Flop: (t810) Hero is UTG+2 with T diamond T club
2 folds, Hero raises to t666, 5 folds, Gabbeli1961 calls t366

Flop: (t1842) J heart 3 diamond 9 heart (2 players)
Gabbeli1961 checks, Hero bets t933, Gabbeli1961 raises to t1866, Hero raises to t6377 all in, Gabbeli1961 calls t2038 all in

Turn: (t9650) 5 club (2 players – 2 are all in)

River: (t9650) 6 heart (2 players – 2 are all in)

 

I just thought he put me on a Cbet with air thats why I piled there it turned out he had AA.

What are your thoughts guys ?

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You need to be more specific with your assertion’s about villain’s thought process. Not for us exactly, but for yourself.

The reason I say this is because you didn’t put villain on a range of hands anywhere during your explanation. I’d be willing to bet you didn’t put them on a range of hands at the time you played the hand either, given the way it played out.

There are a couple of issues you ran into here – villain is defending the BB versus your EP open, and villain has a fairly short stack. There are a lot of hands in villain’s range better than TT on that flop, so you need to consider how villain would play those hands.

Secondly, you need to consider whether re-raising is the best play, even if you do think villain is bluffing – shoving all-in here is just going to get villain to fold whatever low-equity bluffs they do have, and call with anything they’re check-raising for value (including some strong draws). If you’re really convinced they’re bluffing, then just calling probably makes more sense.

Finally, villain’s sizing – almost half their remaining stack – does not look like they’re bluffing very often at all. I imagine they would just check-shove all flush draws, so this sizing could be only value hands.

Think carefully about your opponent’s ranges in spots like these. You titled the thread ‘Trap or Crap’ – I don’t think that’s even close to an appropriate description of this hand. Sure, villain happened to be trapping this time, but in reality, do they really have any random crap in their check-raising range versus an EP raiser with short stacks? Is their value range really mostly traps, or is it more composed of Jx hands against which TT is doing very poorly? Always be asking yourself these types of questions.

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