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TT vs large stack in later stages

chazmoney99

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November 13, 2017 - 6:11 am

Since this is my first post on here any ideas for improvement are very welcome. I tried using the converter but couldn’t get it to work for some reason…

This is the stage in the tournament I start questioning my decisions often. 20BB’s and under especially and how to play against the bigger stacks. At this point we are ITM but just barely. I am playing to make the real money at the final table and not concerned about moving up 1 or 2 pay levels at this point.

Villain is 20/11/5.5 over 135 hands. I did see him c/r a straight when he hit on the turn after c/calling flop with a gutshot straight/bdfd combo. And he c-bet AQ on flop then check turn and river when nothing hit.

My initial read was that he had a lot of chips and could be looking to leverage them against me. I felt he either had a hand like AQ, KQ or QJ, some type of flush draw or was just straight bluffing.

Is this a jam preflop with 20BB’s, a fold or a shove over the top? I assume flatting is the worst option at the time so it was fold or shove.

BLINDS: 1200/2400

NL Holdem $2400(BB)
CO ($38062)
HERO ($47884)
SB ($38046)
BB ($108429)
UTG ($40960)
MP ($31161)
MP ($53046)
HJ ($20605)

Dealt to Hero Ts Td

UTG Folds, MP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $5200 (Rem. Stack: 42444), SB Folds, BB Calls $2800 (Rem. Stack: 102989)

Flop ($13520) 8d 3c Qd
BB Checks, HERO Bets $8000 (Rem. Stack: 34444), BB Raises To $22760 (Rem. Stack: 80229), HERO….????

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November 13, 2017 - 10:34 am

It’s a tough spot regardless when he check-raises, but I would start by not betting anywhere near that large on the flop. With nut hands, you don’t need bets that large to get all in by the river. With bluffs, you don’t need bets that large to get the folds you’re going to get and especially with medium strength hands like this one, you don’t want to be shoveling that kind of money into the pot. I think 4000 would be better. As played, I think it’s a fold.

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November 13, 2017 - 6:07 pm

Foucault said
It’s a tough spot regardless when he check-raises, but I would start by not betting anywhere near that large on the flop. With nut hands, you don’t need bets that large to get all in by the river. With bluffs, you don’t need bets that large to get the folds you’re going to get and especially with medium strength hands like this one, you don’t want to be shoveling that kind of money into the pot. I think 4000 would be better. As played, I think it’s a fold.

Thanks for the advice! My brain is trapped in this bet 1/2, 3/4, full pot mind frame that betting less than 1/3 pot size is totally foreign to me. Makes a ton of sense though, I’m looking forward to implementing that in my strategy.

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November 15, 2017 - 1:31 pm

Generally the wider your betting range, the smaller your bet sizing should be. So on a flop where you’re c-betting a high frequency, like this one, your sizing can be small. On a flop where your betting range is narrower, or on a later street when your range narrows even further, your range naturally becomes more polarized to clear value bets and clear bluffs, and thus your sizing should get larger depending on the runout and your overall betting ranges and frequencies.

If you’re looking for simple rules to follow, it’s really not a terrible strategy to just never bet bigger than half pot on the flop, and never bet smaller than half pot on turn or river. Obviously this is an over-simplification, but it’ll get you closer to optimal bet sizing strategies than just doing things at random. Over time you’ll start to find spots where going over half pot on the flop is fine, and under half pot on later streets, but if you’re having trouble, adding some rules to help yourself isn’t a bad idea.

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