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TT vs AK
turysta4
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September 4, 2010 - 7:19 pm
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Hi

I was quite sure that villain all-in move means AK. The question is: fold or gamble, considering stacks and phase of tournament?

 

Full Tilt Poker $1 $0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t80/t160 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

A_J_250 (MP1): t3095 19.34 BBs
LA QUADRA (MP2): t12088 75.55 BBs
Ggolfer67 (CO): t6346 39.66 BBs
Pdubs11 (BTN): t5030 31.44 BBs
Jaruzelski (SB): t7765 48.53 BBs
Dawnraider1 (BB): t13959 87.24 BBs
rafixgate (UTG): t3127 19.54 BBs
turysta4 (UTG+1): t5280 33 BBs
Dallas_Denny (UTG+2): t4233 26.46 BBs

Pre Flop: (t240) turysta4 is UTG+1 with T of spades T of diamonds
1 fold, turysta4 raises to t480, 1 fold, A_J_250 raises to t3095 all in, 4 folds, Dawnraider1 requests TIME, 1 fold, turysta4 calls t2615

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September 4, 2010 - 9:15 pm
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well obv you can't be 100% certain what your opponent has, unless you are indeed phil ivey, but for argument's sake lets say he flipped up his hand and showed you AKs.  You have to call the t2615, because there is t1200 floating around in the pot already.  You are getting about 1.5-1 on a coinflip, which is basically free money, so take it and run.  And also you are a small favorite, extra bonus.  The real question with this hand is how are you doing against his range?  3bet jaming 20 bigs  isn't always AK imo.  I think his range is 77-AA AJ-AK in this spot, because your early position open signals some strength, but then again it is a $1 so I think it's reasonable to have AJ in there.  He may also be making a small reraise with AA and KK so I think he has those less in this spot.  I'm to tired to do the math, but off the top of my head I am assume it is still +cEV to call against this range.

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September 5, 2010 - 6:01 am
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Thank you very much for your response. My read was based on how he plays earlier and in this low buyins at this stage of tournament people love just flat calling with mid/big pairs. And what you said, with AA-KK i was rather expecting small reraise. This pattern quite often signals AQ-AK and indeed he showed me AK.

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September 5, 2010 - 8:50 am
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I agree with jshilling09, against the villains range pokerstove gives us:

 

     equity win tie      pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.174%   55.36% 00.81%     449341836  6585096.00   { TT }
Hand 1: 43.826%   43.01% 00.81%     349120068  6585096.00   { QQ-77, AJs+, AJo+ }
But even knowing its AK, and getting 1.5 – 1 it is a call. Worst case if you lose is that you still have 2k chips and ~13BB so you aren't out if it.
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September 5, 2010 - 10:56 am
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Your way ahead of his range and getting pot odds to boot, call call call!  If you loss the race play on.

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September 5, 2010 - 11:27 am
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His range can be superwide and TT is way ahead of it, break my arm off getting it in.

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September 6, 2010 - 2:48 pm
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JDOG1645 said:

His range can be superwide and TT is way ahead of it, break my arm off getting it in.


 

Stole my line here with breaking my arm off to get it in. But its used correctly so Ill forgive Jdog. You have to get it in here. You are crushing his shove range IMO. Alot of times you have him dominated here.

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September 6, 2010 - 8:55 pm
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Then why is it in some spots people will say things like “at best you are flipping” like its the worst thing in the world. So when is it ok(or not ok)to take a flip?

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