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TT out of the SB with a guy who is showing a high steal % Proper Raise?
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February 25, 2012 - 1:58 pm
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Merge Network $2,000 Guaranteed Deepstack Freezeout No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150.00/t300.00 Blinds + t25.00 – 9 players
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W0lver1ne (UTG+2): BB = 7.3, t2195
Raizer22 (MP1): BB = 42.0, t12606
PR0PLAYS (MP2): BB = 23.6, t7066
RubeGr (CO): BB = 80.7, t24203
monsterAA (BTN): BB = 74.2, t22257
Hero (SB): BB = 79.9, t23981
mystocksRrising (BB): BB = 45.0, t13501
rink1954 (UTG): BB = 17.7, t5314
AAphillycoachKK (UTG+1): BB = 46.9, t14067

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is SB with T of hearts T of clubs
rink1954 calls t300, AAphillycoachKK calls t300, 3 folds, RubeGr raises to t1800.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to t3300.00, 3 folds, RubeGr calls t1500

Flop: (t7725) T of spades 5 of hearts 8 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero checks, RubeGr checks

Turn: (t7725) Q of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t3862.00, IS this too high of a CBet after the turn?

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February 25, 2012 - 4:00 pm
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Sizing is fine on the turn. You have to get money into this pot.

Preflop, I'd be suspicious of the utg limp from the 17bb stack, and honestly might just fold and not tell anyone.

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February 26, 2012 - 4:14 am
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agree the UTG limp could be suspicious (or donkey)

but i'd prefer to flat the iso raise here and not 3bet OOP – b/c we aren't keen to get 70bbs all in pre w TT vs unknowns 4bet range

and it would just suck to get 4bet and have to fold

 

as played i like the flop check and your turn sizing is fine

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February 26, 2012 - 5:38 am
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Flat > Raise > Fold

Unless the UTG limper is a good, winning player I'll take the chance that the fish actually has AA this time and could back raise in which case I'm only losing 6 BB and still have almost 85. 

Flatting is better, I think, because TT doesn't flop all that well and if you don't get lucky and hit something like top set you're going to have to barrel multiple streets OOP with overcards on the board. 

Anyways, all that said I still bet the flop for like 1/3 pot to start building a pot just because we're so deep. 

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February 26, 2012 - 5:52 am
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i would also prefer flat pre,

check call the flop is my line too and the turn sizing is also fine

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February 26, 2012 - 9:20 am
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i like flat pre, and it i would fire the flop and then snap check the turn and make my river bet look bluffy and hope they ship overpair

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February 26, 2012 - 10:59 am
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If no reads on villains I flat pre and see action from limpers (limp shove means AA-KK almost everytime at these stakes).  Check Raise flop. Follow up turn

 

As played your sizing if fine, both of you have plenty chips left to put it all in OTR without overbetting.

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February 26, 2012 - 12:31 pm
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I too just flat pre with how deep you are.  You will be in an awkward spot a bunch post with overs hitting and all we have done is bloat the pot.  Also, I am too suspicious of the utg limp with 17bb.

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February 27, 2012 - 1:45 am
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Flat pre-flop, betting ~2675 into 4725 (from flatting vs. 3 betting).

This then leaves all over pairs to possibly raise and feel committed and bluffs to do their thing.  10,075 on turn (if called) and I would donk lead again this time for 5200.  If called the pot would be 20,475 and villain would have 14,528 left making it probably a given to get stks in on river.  When you can achieve getting stakes all-in on river when your shove gives villain 2.4:1 on his river call (14,528 to win 35,003) than the 3 bet pre can take all that from you when he 4 bets big and then you have to fold.

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