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November 10, 2012
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Poker Stars $1.29+$0.21 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t15/t30 Blinds – 7 players – View hand 2265739
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
nanroro (SB): t2490 83 BBs
Hero (BB): t1395 46.50 BBs
kipitilinik (UTG): t1440 48 BBs
the062 (UTG+1): t1165 38.83 BBs
tad07 (MP): t3780 126 BBs
Kyca(Tamaz) (CO): t1985 66.17 BBs
Antje88Brian (BTN): t1245 41.50 BBs
Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with T
T
2 folds, tad07 raises to t90, 2 folds, nanroro calls t75, Hero raises to t270, tad07 calls t180, 1 fold
Flop: (t630) 8
Q
6 (2 players)
Hero bets t450, tad07 raises to t3510 all in, Hero ?
Villain (tad07) stats (only 27 hands): VPIP/PFR: 37/27, AF: 1,2
As you can see, it is very early in the tourney.
Some history and my line of thought:
tad07 raises a lot, he is in the HJ position so I think my hand is in front of his range. nanroro has called an all in after three hands with K7s, so I raise preflop. Hoping to show strength and thinking that tad07 will fold. I would like to get it in vs nanroro, he called at that moment 86% preflop and called almost every bet on flop and turn.
On the flop I think I am still ahead of villain. I bet for value or to get him too fold. His shove is very polarizing. A few hands ago he won a big pot after calling an all in on Ts9SKh flop with JdJs (against AdKc) but he turned a straight.
I think his preflop range is AJ+, 88 or 99+ so AQ and a set of 8's is in his range. He may think that I am always CB but then a call was expected.
So his shove seems very polarizing.
Grtz, Fil
May 30, 2012
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I think you should have made your cbet smaller. 450 seems a bit much to me this early. Why not 280-320. Does the same thing this way if he shoves, you don't lose as many chips. The way played, you know your history w/ him. I would fold and still have 30bb's.
March 21, 2013
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there are barely any draws on the board so I don't see him shove much worse here. I'd fold and just play a decent stack here.
If he raises a lot I'm even more inclined to X/back the flop and pot control. we got a decent hand, villain is aggressive so we'd get our value later on other streets and on this board there's not much that we beat if villain raises us or we're playing a total guessing game and 'hope' we're right about our guess.
Besides that I don't think you can say villain raises a lot based on 27 hands..
November 10, 2012
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I think you should have made your cbet smaller. 450 seems a bit much to me this early. Why not 280-320. Does the same thing this way if he shoves, you don’t lose as many chips. The way played, you know your history w/ him. I would fold and still have 30bb’s.
I agree, I realized when I reviewed the hand that my CB was too big.
November 10, 2012
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I folded the TT based on the fact that I still had a decent stack after the hand. I also agree with the fact that I CB too much. I should have CB less.
Thanx!
June 11, 2012
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flat pre
as played: bet smaller or c/ck
fold to the shove
April 8, 2013
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I agree with flat pre. He is rarely folding to your 3 bet and you end up in too many situations like this. And honestly when you 3 bet pre and bet 450 on this flop you cant really fold or atleast you should never bet that much with the intention of folding to a raise. You just put in half your stack and folded to the first sign of aggression.
After looking at this hand again, I think you give villain a much tighter range than is necessary. You just said he called an all in(pre?) with K7 suited. When you bet 450 on the flop, you have 675 left. Alot of players in these tournaments with shove here with any hand they would otherwise continue with. For instance, if he has 89s and would normally call a bet here, he may just shove because of your stack size. He also probably has any pocket pair in his range as well as a bunch of broadway combinations and suited connectors. I think with only 22bb left you really should call here.
May 30, 2012
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At this stage in the tourney, i also just flat pre from the bb instead of squeezing. You are going to get called so often pre and the majority of the time you are going to have overs come on the flop putting you in an awkard position post. With the way played and that dry of flop, I c bet as well but make it about 40-50% pot. You will get all the information you need imo with how the villains play back at you. Best of luck at the tables!
November 10, 2012
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Quote: “After looking at this hand again, I think you give villain a much tighter range than is necessary. You just said he called an all in(pre?) with K7 suited….
It was not villain tad07 who called an all in, it was nanroro who did this a few hands earlier. That was also the reason I did the squeeze, I was willing to get the money in against nanroro, but he folded after my squeeze was called by tad07. If nanroro wasn’t participating pre, I would have flatted pre. But my cbet was indeed too high. Still think I did right folding. Thanx for the comments guys!
July 20, 2012
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I understand that you are trying to get value from the sb and it's a good idea to target him, TT may be strong enough to play for stacks against him even. But there is the IR in the pot and so this isn't the time for it, I would be trying to play optimally against the IR here instead.
From that point I am definitely not 3betting TT pre, it's hard to get him to call with much worse, and even then you are playing a bloated pot oop with a middle pair. So I flat pre.
As played I would either cbet the flop to about 250-300, or I would check/evaluate. This is a pretty friendly flop for TT and yet it's still hard to play, it shows why a 3bet pre isn't optimal.
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