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TT Deep in 15k GTD Full Tilt
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March 19, 2011 - 3:40 am
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What are we doing here ?

 

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Full Tilt Poker Game #29150262384: Super Stack $15K Guarantee (226440984), Table 168 – 8000/16000 Ante 2000 – No Limit Hold'em – 02:32:57 ET – 2011/03/19
Seat 1: ducksoup45 (398,500)
Seat 4: Mauwetic (1,503,202)
Seat 5: R1K16 (708,498)
Seat 6: biggnutts1 (380,817)
Seat 7: RoyLTee (901,037)
Seat 8: owlmen (1,027,877)
Seat 9: VegHell13 (246,518)
ducksoup45 antes 2,000
Mauwetic antes 2,000
R1K16 antes 2,000
biggnutts1 antes 2,000
RoyLTee antes 2,000
owlmen antes 2,000
VegHell13 antes 2,000
biggnutts1 posts the small blind of 8,000
RoyLTee posts the big blind of 16,000
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to R1K16 [Ts Th]
owlmen folds
VegHell13 folds
ducksoup45 raises to 32,000
Mauwetic folds
R1K16 has 15 seconds left to act
R1K16 raises to 49,999
biggnutts1 folds
RoyLTee folds
ducksoup45 raises to 396,500, and is all in
R1K16 has 15 seconds left to act
R1K16 has requested TIME

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March 21, 2011 - 1:24 am
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I don't like your raise pre-flop it seems weak for a 3-bet, I would have went with at least 96,000.  If I read the hand right it would be heads-up with the villian seven-handed if you were to call. Perhaps, I am to loose, but I would make the call heads-up, worse case scenario you double him up, but your still alive. Preflop with his range I estimate you are 52-55%.  If you have poker stove I would double check to confirm, just to be sure.

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March 21, 2011 - 4:23 am
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It depends on your image and on how the villain has been behaving recently/reads. How many hands do yay have for those stats on villain?

If your image is tight then it’s a fold for me. If you image is crazy enough so that your 3bet range is pretty wide then it’s more of a call.

Again if your villain has been crazy raising and re-raising then it’s more of a call.

Last bit of advice – if your gonna 3 bet you should already know what your doing if he 4bet shoves.

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March 21, 2011 - 11:05 am
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I'm calling here 99% of the time…I'm assuming your in ITM,  also think if your going to 3bet it needs to be bigger for me it would be around 75-80k, but I'm only 3betting if I plan on calling his 4bet jam

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You effectively min-3bet him here which is going to put you in a terrible spot. If you do this to me I am going to 4bet shove on you with virtually my entire range, because this just doesn't look serious. Your in position with a decent PP so I think you can 3bet or call here depending on your post flop comfort. If you 3bet then you need to go bigger and given your stack size I don't think I would be comfortable putting in 1/7th of my stack and folding so you are pretty much committed to a 3bet jam here playing for a little over 50% of your stack with a decently strong PP. I think you are going to be in a 60/40 here a lot of the time and given that it is getting later in the tourney is probably a pretty reasonable risk to take. I think you can call and play games with him Post flop as well, but your TT is vulnerable to a multiway pot so that may not be the most advisable path. I think you can go either way with it if you do choose, just watch your 3bet size.

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March 21, 2011 - 4:43 pm
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From his stats, it looks like he plays a pretty TAG game.  Def agree with having a plan when you 3bet, and as others mentioned the sizing was a little off.  Somewhere in the ballpark of 85K would be the norm unless you are trying to induce. 

As played I would reluctantly fold.  You basically put in 3BBs and still have over 40BBs to work with

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I also dont like the min 3bet. 3bet big enough to get him off his hand pre. If he still 4bet jams to a good sized 3bet….let it go.

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I think bet bigger so I'm priced in easier to call. Something along the lines of like 75,000 gets the same point accross as 96,000 and if he snap shoves on me…. It's read dependant I call if I think he's just a donk or fold if he's been sorta nitty go off table dynamic's. Just going off its 7 handed, you have a big stack and you button 3bet all come into play. If you been playing a ton of hands and opening a lot I would snap call the shove a ton, seems like button 3bets are getting more and more common and people notice them all day and just reshove back.

… After the min 3bet and the jamn for half my stack I just let it go and don't make the same play.

I probably just fold now with the min 3bet sizing.

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March 22, 2011 - 5:33 pm
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3b/call but you need to be 3b to like 75k.  We want to make sure we have a plan when we 3b though.  Make sure we know before we 3b what are plan is if he shoves on us.

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