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TS Superstacks Event 1 --- 99 in MP1
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December 16, 2013 - 9:59 pm
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I played this hand at Turning Stones Superstacks Event #1c. It was a $250 re-entry $100k guaranteed. There were 4 flights in this event, and you could re-enter until the end of level 10 of each flight. This hand kind of troubled me at the time, and I think there is good discussion of the hand on multiple streets. I'll post more info street by street and I'll try not to drag it out too long.

 

My read on the villain was that he was a decent post flop player. He seemed to be able to judge where he was at post flop reasonably well, but preflop he was mixing it up way too much. He was calling in bad spots with suited connectors and suited one gappers in spots where it didn't make much sense. He did quite a bit of limping and I think the only time he 3bet he had KK. If I had to assign him a VPIP and PFR it would be about 30/10.

 

My image was pretty tight. I had played a few hands and tried setmining a few times, but hadn't gotten to any showdowns.

 

Blinds are at 50/100. I have 17k and villain has around 15k. Villain UTG+1 opens to 400. We're in MP1 and look down at 9club9spade. What do you do here? Why is 3betting good and flatting bad or vice versa?

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I flat here because while 99 is good to see that flop, it doesn't look good if he comes over the top of your raise.  It sounds like he can be pretty passive if his only 3bet was with KK.  Does this mean he hasn't generally been opening for 4x the BB? Especially if he hasn't been 4xing, I'd say don't reraise.  I don't think you need to isolate because his open was large enough on its own to discourage the blinds from calling.  He's also probably not folding pre-flop unless you go really big, which I don't think you want to do yet.  So whether he has AK or JT, we're probably good keeping the pot small and assessing his play after the flop.

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Yeah, I should add that 4x wasn't really out of the ordinary. The standard size for most of the table including him was over a 3x open. I've noticed that live the open sizes are almost bigger than what it would be online.

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I'm more concerned with the turn decision here so I'll take us to there and give my thought processes.

 

I ended up 3betting to 1100. My thought behind this was that he's probably calling with all of his AT+ KQ+ and 22-TT maybe JJ hands. I figured a flop cbet would take down the pot most of the time. If he folded preflop I didn't think it was the worst outcome either. Looking back I don't know how good my thinking was here.

 

It folds around to the villain and he calls the 1100. No surprises here, I still put him on the above range. 

 

The flop comes 5club 5diamond 6spade. Villain checks and I bet 1200. He calls. Here I'm getting a little suspicious. I'd fully expect him to fold most of his broadway range. I can see him peeling one with pretty much all his pairs. We can maybe throw in 78, but I really think he limp calls with that hand preflop.

 

The turn is the Kclub. Villain checks. Hero???

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Pre-flop, I agree with derSchwartz.  Call this with the intent to set-mine.  If the blinds come along, great, as that's higher implied odds.  If a later position squeezes, assess their likely range, and act accordingly depending on villain's call, fold or 4bet.

I'm good with your pre-flop raise reasoning.  If he reraised, you can get out easily, and if he calls you've got initiative and your cbet could take it down.  Also, if he just calls, you can cbet the flop, and if he calls again he'll likely check the turn to you and you can check behind to pot control if you didn't hit your set.  If he folds to your 3bet, that would mean that he is cap of open/call in EP with weakness (sc, small pp, Ax or Kx or weak broadway QT JT).  Or maybe his fold would be due to your tight image, and he would only expect you to reraise with the top of your range.  You could muck your cards and dejectedly say “always when I have A's” to further your tight image.

Your flop cbet is good, and I'd expect his call to mean two overs (broadway), a medium pp (77-TT or JJ) and even slowplaying a monster (66 or 55).  It could even be 22-44, but that's pretty bad seeing as how you've got the tight image.

On the turn his check to the K could still give him the same range as above.  I think another cbet would fold out all worse than you, and only get better hands to call or raise.  I'd check behind to control the pot, and not turn my s/d value hand into a bluff.  If he's got a monster the best way for him to get his whole stack into the pot is to c/r here, then shove the river.  Your bet would help him double-up and cripple yourself.

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