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October 30, 2013
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i have a hand here i was reviewing and , speaking my way through it i thought, if i raise him here and he comes over the top im surely beat buy an overpair and that hes not jamming on a draw. sorry for shortwinded version, i can come back with deets later, but i just wanted thoughts on the hand specifically and any advice (as dumb as it sounds) for learning to go with your reads. thanks
Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 MP+1: 16,666 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6) MP+2: 22,020 (VPIP: 37.55, PFR: 11.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.86, Hands: 253) CO: 15,130 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5) Hero (BTN): 40,397 SB: 23,894 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6) BB: 22,116 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6) UTG: 16,530 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6) UTG+1: 11,950 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6) MP: 10,000 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 6) 9 players post ante of 80, SB posts SB 400, BB posts BB 800 Pre Flop: (pot: 1,920) Hero has 55
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 2,400[/color], fold, [color=red]BB raises to 5,360[/color], Hero calls 2,960 Flop: (11,840, 2 players) 7
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Note: made a proper read for an overpair but called off stacks anyway once he acted accordingly. TRUST YOUR READS! [color=red]BB bets 2,400[/color], [color=red]Hero raises to 7,200[/color], [color=red]BB raises to 16,676 and is all-in[/color], Hero calls 9,476 Turn: (45,192, 2 players) Q
May 20, 2013
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How incorrect is it to fold on the initial re-raise? I know he is just clicking it back, but hero will be OOP with a small pair and he just put 20% of his stack in on the raise. I know 2:1 and all that, but a 3-bet from that stack size into a larger stack sets off alarm bells for me.
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December 6, 2012
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Kilavolts said:
i thought, if i raise him here and he comes over the top im surely beat buy an overpair and that hes not jamming on a draw.
So why did you raise? If you think he'll fold often enough to make a raise profitable, then you can raise as a bluff, but you shouldn't do that when you have a hand with enough equity to call. Use weaker hands for your bluff-raises.
As for trusting your reads, I guess just rehearse in your mind what you're going to do before you do it. So don't just click raise and then make a decision once he shoves. Say to yourself “You are raise-folding here. So raise, and then if he shoves, don't even think about it, just fold.” Don't permit yourself to second-guess unless something changes.
October 30, 2013
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Thank you for your imput. I couldn't honestly think why i raised in the first place. after just having watched the latest video in my list, the part about knowing what I'm going to do before I do it makes total sense and I cant believe I wasn't in the first place. Much appreciated.
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August 25, 2012
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It looks like the biggest mistake you made here, as Andrew has identified, was 'raising for information'. What you need to try to force yourself to do instead is follow the train of logic to its conclusion, and instead of waiting for information about a player's hand to reveal itself once they make a decision, think it through and try to theorise about why they might do a certain thing with a certain hand, before they actually do it. This will help you identify spots in which your opponents' ranges are very weak (if you can't find any hands in their ranges that they might logically want to reraise you with), or very strong (if you can't find any hands in their ranges that they're actually likely to fold to a raise).
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