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trips vs river c/r
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August 31, 2010 - 12:58 pm
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villains stats are 16/4 over 45 hands

 

is my line ok? what you do on river now?

 

Full Tilt Poker $23,500 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t25/t50 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

guitey (BTN): t2765 55.30 BBs
healey87 (SB): t3100 62 BBs
semoer (BB): t2625 52.50 BBs
RocketsBaby (UTG): t3063 61.26 BBs
halfshell14 (UTG+1): t4805 96.10 BBs
SGTR (UTG+2): t3745 74.90 BBs
Alfred Aase (MP1): t3572 71.44 BBs
shipit1988 (MP2): t3030 60.60 BBs
elclandestino (CO): t2945 58.90 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) guitey is BTN with 9 of clubs 8 of clubs
RocketsBaby raises to t100, halfshell14 calls t100, 3 folds, elclandestino calls t100, guitey calls t100, 2 folds

Flop: (t475) 4 of clubs 9 of hearts T of diamonds (4 players)
RocketsBaby checks, halfshell14 checks, elclandestino checks, guitey checks

Turn: (t475) 9 of spades (4 players)
RocketsBaby checks, halfshell14 checks, elclandestino bets t200, guitey raises to t600, RocketsBaby folds, halfshell14 folds, elclandestino calls t400

River: (t1675) 6 of hearts (2 players)
elclandestino checks, guitey bets t825, elclandestino raises to t2245 all in, guitey ????

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August 31, 2010 - 1:23 pm
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Yeah I don't mind you're line at all, I may bet flop when checked to me, but thats pretty marginal against 3 opponents so i don't mind playing pot control. The river check raise is gross, but I don't think he does this with a hand you beat,  A9 may be the bottom of his range here, while he most likely has 44,T9, 66 or 78 (I think this is most likely with how the turn was played) .  I think you have to fold then puke in the corner.

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August 31, 2010 - 1:57 pm
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i bet river bigger since we're not really ever going to try to induce a bluff given stacks.  as played fold and whine when he shows down a bluff.

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August 31, 2010 - 5:33 pm
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I don't like the river bet. You bet 825 when you have 2065 left…that is more than 1/3 your stack. You might as well shove.

 

I am not trying to be a dooosh here but when you raised what was your intent with the raise? B/c if you raised just 100 more and got your villian to call, the pot would be 1875 on the river and you would have 1965 and about a pot sized shove bet on the river. I am just wondering if you were thinking ahead about that or not.

 

As played though, you have a stack of 1265 blinds are 25/50….You can fold and get ready for a 3bet shove. So I fold

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August 31, 2010 - 5:57 pm
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BBird40 said:

I don't like the river bet. You bet 825 when you have 2065 left…that is more than 1/3 your stack. You might as well shove.

 

I am not trying to be a dooosh here but when you raised what was your intent with the raise? B/c if you raised just 100 more and got your villian to call, the pot would be 1875 on the river and you would have 1965 and about a pot sized shove bet on the river. I am just wondering if you were thinking ahead about that or not.

 

As played though, you have a stack of 1265 blinds are 25/50….You can fold and get ready for a 3bet shove. So I fold


Your right about the sizing, usually something I do think about, but I remember I was in alot of hands at the time and just glanced, saw trips and his small lead and made it 3x. I bet half pot to try get calls from Tx or a mid pair and did fold to the shove.

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August 31, 2010 - 9:57 pm
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I overshove river here and get paid by a ten.  I think your bet kind of induces a river shove and I'd rather not put myself to a difficult situation.

 

As played I think our opponent has 87 here a lot of the time, but it doesn't matter.  Just shove river.

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Started with t2765 you put in t100 pf (left with t2665), put in t600 on the turn (left with t2065) then put in t825 on the river now you have t1240….as played I am never folding to the river shove.

 

I agree with Wein …overshove. If he caught gg him, learning opp for you.

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September 1, 2010 - 11:35 am
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agree with Wein he's so dreamy!!!

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September 1, 2010 - 12:43 pm
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looks like you set up the payday so gl

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yeah, I don't know if it's necessary to raise turn either.  maybe in a smaller tournament with nonthinking players, but it really looks faceup, i probably prefer flatting and raising some rivers depending on his betsizing / timing… give him more chances to bluff if he is just giving it a stab on the turn and make it so he can try to barrel you off instead of thinking you have a 9 since people don't bluffraise that turn with that many people in the pot very often.  have to call river as played but you're prob vamos'd

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