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June 3, 2012
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This is a situation that seems to come up for me on a semi-frequent basis and is one of the things I’m struggling with. I’ll post my most recent example here to start:
$200 online satellite to the main event, early stages so no ICM factors at play here.
No reads on my opponent. Have only had one big showdown where I 3bet a SB raise from BB with TT, bet 3 times on KKT84 and got called down by KQ.
Blinds 40/80
Hero – SB 15500
Villain – BB – 10609
Folds around to hero in SB holding T
T
. Hero raises to 240, Villain calls.
Flop (480) J
9
3
Hero checks, Villain bets 195, Hero calls
Turn (870) 2
Hero checks, Villain bets 695, Hero calls
River (2260) 9
Hero checks, Villain bets 1595, Hero ???
I don’t know exactly how much of my thoughts I should be giving in my opening post here, but I guess I’ll say that I use a mixed strategy of limping and raising from the small blind preflop. For tens I’ll be raising 66% of the time and limping 33% of the time. Don’t think I’ll be limp/raising this deep with this hand but against certain opponents that could be an option.
Postflop I’m in a position where my particular hands blocks a good chunk of the obvious bluffing candidates (QT, T8, KT), but not blocking any clubs. I’ll leave it there for now. Looking forward to thoughts about not only this hand but about these types of spots in general.
June 2, 2013
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You do block some str8 draws, but I can´t see why you don´t cbet the flop, for me probably will be a bet, bet, check/call line on this kind of boards, specially because a lot of the draws missed. Fold for a reraise from V on flop or turn. By check calling you put yourself in an awkward spot playing second pair oop, with no clue.
For an online sat, against unknow players, I don´t think is necessary to mix your game, unless you are playing regs and they are reading hands and stuff, I never played $200 sats, so I don´t know, but if this guys are unknow I don´t see why mixing this will benefit you.
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December 6, 2012
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Close spot. Generally when you have a bluff-catcher your decision is supposed to be quite close between calling and folding, if your opponent is doing a good job of balancing (which of course many don’t, but if you don’t know what error they will make, there’s nothing you can do about that). It’s worth thinking in terms not just of building a calling range but also a folding range – you’re supposed to have both. What hands would you this way and then fold the river?
Also FWIW I agree that betting flop will generally be better. Your hand has a lot more value on the flop than you’re giving it credit for, and it benefits to some degree from protection. Just because you can’t beat top pair doesn’t mean you don’t have a value hand, especially in a blind battle.
June 3, 2012
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I agree that this definitely could’ve been a cbet, there’s some value in protection and 9x, pocket pairs, and even maybe ace highs can call. I guess my issue with cbetting is being faced with a raise on this texture where a competent player might recognize having a range advantage. I’d imagine my thinking at the time was that bet/bet/check would put me in an awkward spot as well, and playing the hand this way would let villain keep more bluffs in his range. As played it looks like TT starts to fall towards the bottom of my range with the 9 pairing on the river which would promote a chunk of the other hands I play this way to trips, I still have some Jx and overpairs here as well which can all happily call a bet.
@almofadinas – when I was referring to having a mixed strategy, I mean that I don’t raise 100% of hands played from the SB, or limp 100%, but do a mix of both. For this to work, you have to have some strong hands in your limping range and bluffs in your raising range to protect your weaker limps so the big blind can’t just punish you by raising your limps and folding to your raises.
June 2, 2013
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Julius187 said
@almofadinas – when I was referring to having a mixed strategy, I mean that I don’t raise 100% of hands played from the SB, or limp 100%, but do a mix of both. For this to work, you have to have some strong hands in your limping range and bluffs in your raising range to protect your weaker limps so the big blind can’t just punish you by raising your limps and folding to your raises.
I still think this is not necessary versus unknow players, works better to mix against regs, and give them hell to read you.
February 20, 2015
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I was in this tournament also but at a different table 🙂
Based on the information you provided, I would have led the flop and check-called the turn if he bet. J93 is a different flop than, say, K93 or A93. I also don’t want to risk giving a free card on a two-suited flop with the BB’s range being what it is.
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