Not sure I’m a big fan of the flat-call preflop. In fact I definitely don’t like it, we can’t be flatting EP raises on 30bb from MP very often. 3-bet and fold are both probably better.

I also think the range of hands you’ve assigned to villain is much, much too wide. He’s playing with stats of 19/11, but you’re assuming he would raise a range of something like 25-30% of hands UTG+1 – that seems like a huge stretch.

That said, once you get to this point it’s a really tricky spot. I think the main problem is you lose to so few combos of hands – 3×55, 3×22 (if those pairs are in villain’s opening range in EP), 1xKQs, 1xAKs, 3xKQo, 3xAKo. That’s a maximum of 14 combos, and you’re not drawing dead against any of them.

On the other hand, you don’t really beat a huge amount – the only worse hand villain can really have for value is KhTh, although if we go with the extremely wide range you originally put villain on then he can theoretically have all the worse Kings as well.

If that’s the case and he can do this with a worse King for value, then you definitely can’t fold here. However, since I imagine you’re probably too wide with villain’s preflop range, it’s probably closer than that. I do think there’s a good chance villain can do this with a strong club draw, and against that you’re obviously miles ahead.

Generally I’m sure I’d call here much more often than I’d fold. If your read on villain’s preflop range is correct there are plenty of hands you beat here, both value hands and bluffs. But it’s not the easiest of spots. I think the biggest mistake you probably made was the flat-call preflop – it’s a very tough spot to have a flatting range.

AK Mr Blonde said

Anyways…

so im thinking about if i would have 3 bet him preflop like you said. Im just wondering what is it for? Would it be to put me in control of the hand, or narrow down his range? the reason i chose to flat was because i wasnt in love with the hand but it had potential. KJs tends to get me in alot of trouble so i play it cautiously.

If we’re 3-betting preflop, it’s not really a bluff or a value-bet, but a 3-bet designed to cater to the fact that it’s extremely difficult for us to profitably flat-call in this spot with 6 players left to act behind us. Villain can fold better hands (Ax, small pairs) to our 3-bet, they’re probably going to be 4-betting most hands that have us dominated, and our hand plays very well in position postflop so we can extract some EV that way. If we can’t really flat-call in this spot then it makes sense to 3-bet slightly more often as a way to take advantage of this player’s wide range.

It also prevents the players behind us from realising their equity in the hand, which is very valuable – our EV in a heads-up 3-bet pot in position is likely to be much, much higher than our EV in a 3-way or 4-way pot where one or more players has position on us. Generally we want to minimise the number of multiway pots we play, as they tend to be much trickier to negotiate and harder to win without making a hand.