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Hi guys. Had a couple of TPEers watching me last night (really upped my game btw – didn't want to screw up so thanks for watching!) and this hand came up. I said in the chat that I'd put it up here for others to have a look at as it had me (and a couple of others) a bit confused.
Villain was running 24/21 over 38 hands with AFq 100. When he donks into me I just can't put him on a hand that he's happy to go to the felt with as he's more likely to check raise on this flop, isn't he? And with this board he could really have a flush draw or a straight draw. So I decided to flat to reevaluate the turn. When the 2nd Queen comes off on the Turn I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a Queen, but then what is he betting into me on two streets with? Should I jam flop? What would you do here?
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t6000/t12000 Blinds + t1500 – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
SB: BB = 20.4, t244970
BB: BB = 20.4, t245070
UTG: BB = 16.5, t197400
UTG+1: BB = 63.9, t766294
MP1: BB = 63.7, t764346
MP2: BB = 33.6, t403483
CO: BB = 37.3, t447692
HERO: BB = 30.5, t365760
Pre Flop: (t30000) Hero is BTN with 4
7
5 folds, Hero raises to t26500, 1 fold, BB calls t14500
Flop: (t71000) Q
7
6 (2 players)
BB bets t36000, Hero calls t36000
Turn: (t143000) Q
(2 players)
BB bets t96000, Hero ???
June 11, 2010
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With how aggressive he is there is a pretty good shot imo that he is holding any of the three cards on the flop and hit. When he bets again, he is doing a really nice job of rep'ing the queen. I think i just fold this one pre-flop, but given that I most certainly fold this one on the flop, I don't like middle pair junk kicker and my flush can't happen and runner runner to 4 straight cards on the board, kind of thin if you ask me.
fold pre with aggro opponent(s) in the blinds and 20bb effective stacks.
as played I prob jam flop.
Given the fact your the pre flop aggressor. I think you have to raise his lead on flop and take control of this pot. I think more times then not you take this pot down with a big enough raise to his lead out. My feeling is if he smashes this flop since your the pre flop aggressor he knows your gonna c-bet so he would most certainly choose to check raise if he thought his hand was good.
May 26, 2010
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Once again we see the donk lead oop (whcih is almost always weakness). Bigdog in your videos you usually raise about the size of the pot on his donk lead right? This isa $2 tournament so I don't really think hes bluffing here all that often. Also thinking that he may chk-raise the flop could be a little to advanced for this type of player at this stake level IMO. I think as sucky as it is, it's probably a Q even though when another Q hits he bets big again. I like the raise on the flop as the best line to take as you will probably find out right then and there if your hand is good or not. Messing with a 20 BB stack can get really awkward sometimes.
bigdogpckt5s said:
Given the fact your the pre flop aggressor. I think you have to raise his lead on flop and take control of this pot. I think more times then not you take this pot down with a big enough raise to his lead out. My feeling is if he smashes this flop since your the pre flop aggressor he knows your gonna c-bet so he would most certainly choose to check raise if he thought his hand was good.
Is 30bb a big enough stack to raise his lead with 2nd pair no kicker? Say we ~3x his donk to 105K and he comes over the top allin, can we/should we fold after commiting about 30-40% of our stack?
with a shallower stack you shouldn't be 3xing his reraise, make it more like 2.2x-2.8x depending on your stack. still acomplishes same purpose. i would probably fold turn as you could have plenty of queens in your range, i think he has a lot of draws with this line tho but maybe not. i dont mind raise/folding flop tho
Yeah as played raise flop…I will jump on that boat with everyone else.
But againt an agg I would not attack his blind with a hand that is going to make me question my decision once the flop comes.
July 3, 2010
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HITTHEPANDA said:
with a shallower stack you shouldn't be 3xing his reraise, make it more like 2.2x-2.8x depending on your stack. still acomplishes same purpose. i would probably fold turn as you could have plenty of queens in your range, i think he has a lot of draws with this line tho but maybe not. i dont mind raise/folding flop tho
+1. He shouldn't be defending too light on a 20 bb stack. You can put in a raise of like 2.5x and if he shoves decide if you think he's shoving a draw that you want to fliip against or if he could have a better hand.
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