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February 15, 2016 - 8:35 pm
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#Game No : 764695518
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 764695518 *****
$50/$100 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #77346199 Free 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Muppah78 ( $4,540 )
Seat 2: thrasher71 ( $2,251 )
Seat 4: london_ace ( $2,910 )
Seat 5: SSJarch ( $5,386 )
Seat 6: Oldzwerg ( $2,935 )
Seat 7: KilerGirl30 ( $1,545 )
Seat 9: Desempleados ( $2,224 )
Seat 10: cashsuicide ( $1,655 )
cashsuicide posts ante [$10]
Oldzwerg posts ante [$10]
Desempleados posts ante [$10]
london_ace posts ante [$10]
SSJarch posts ante [$10]
Muppah78 posts ante [$10]
thrasher71 posts ante [$10]
KilerGirl30 posts ante [$10]
cashsuicide posts small blind [$50]
Muppah78 posts big blind [$100]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ 9diamond, 9spade ]
thrasher71 raises [$265]
london_ace calls [$265]
SSJarch folds
Oldzwerg folds
KilerGirl30 folds
Desempleados folds
cashsuicide folds
Muppah78 folds
** Dealing flop ** [ 3heart, 5club, 4club]  $760
thrasher71 bets [$570]
london_ace calls [$570]
** Dealing turn ** [ 3club]  $1900
thrasher71 bets [$950]
london_ace raises [$2,065]
thrasher71 calls [$456]
** Dealing river ** [ 4heart]
** Summary **

 

hey

 

no reads

 

whats v range when they bet turn?  also does anyone prefer 3-bet/c pre? since v opened up in EP i think it probably better to flat here with our hand as we have decent equity vs their EP raising range,  if we 3-bet and v bet 4-bet shoves most of his range will probably have us crushed and we also have many players left to act which makes it difficult for us.

 

cheers.

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February 15, 2016 - 8:41 pm
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whats v range when they bet turn?  

I don’t know, and neither do you, so you ought to have some kind of folding range. What would be if not smaller pairs with no club? I like pre-flop and flop.

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assuming they are opening up  8.9% from UTG , which includes 66+ ATs+ KJs+QJs+ AJo+, when V bets flop , they could have over pairs or a flush draw in their range. When they bet turn again their range does seem strong , again it includes overpairs , perhaps with a club. I don’t know if they’ll bet ott with a hand like 8c8c here which we do have beat. I think there’s more hands that beat us then we beat though , which makes me think folding turn is probably correct…

 

I just don’t think v would be c-betting that often otf , hero’s range seems pretty strong calling an UTG raise ,  v should know that our range won’t be very wide when we call the flop bet which means his turn bet is going to be pretty damm strong. If i was in v shoes the turn would not scare me as i don’t think the turn improves hero’s flop calling range as we likely would have raised gii otf with the FD , so its unlikely hero has a flush ott. 

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3b/call is good vs some. even rejamming pre is an option.

generally i prefer flatting though.

flop is rather meh with his sizing. but i might call or raise gii depending on villains tendencies.

turn is a fold to me.

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Sizing tell by V. He’s never folding to your raise when he bets 2/3 of his stack to bet half pot. Fold > call >>>>> raise

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